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As for Aberdeen and the 11-1 vote. It's the most shameful thing to happen in my time watching Scottish football. Yes it was a different regime but its unforgivable until everyone who lived through it dies I suspect. 

 

Ruined it . For every fan, player and team in Scotland outwith rangers 2 and Celtic. Until they go bust again or f**k off to the English league Two. 

 

Where's an angry mob when u need one. 

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1 hour ago, gannonball said:

Depends who it is tbh but the gulf in budgets is way under what Leicester would have had (talking well over a hundred million you would assume) when they won the EPL. Same could have been said for Atletico Madrid a few years ago also would say. Aberdeen just need two teams to have an off season where as Leicester needed about 4 teams who are season as proper title contenders. 
It would still be a notable and outstanding achievement but it would be nowhere near Leicesters one imo.

Disagree. 
 

Im fairly certain most the top league players, referees, pundits etc in England aren't Leicester fans. 
 

It's more than just money in Scottish football. 

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9 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

Rules in place long before, if I'm not mistaken. 
 

Edit; what no one ever mentions re AFC finishing bottom is the fact we'd have had to negotiate a play off, where we could've won. 
 

So, it wasn't a stick on relegation avoided, it was the avoidance of a relegation play off. 

you would have been beaten like the dogs you are, and you know it

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37 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Apparently Leicesters wage bill was £80m that year, highest was Man U at £240m.

At that level though it becomes a bit weird. Leicester still had a squad full of experienced Internationals, and had spent over £30m on transfers that season.

Yeah, was gonna say this. The money in England means that the salient point here is less about Leicester competing with other English teams. It's more about the ways English teams can compete with the rest of Europe. Leicester could scout the entire world and give players a) competitive wages and b) an incredible platform.

The budgetary margins from Man Utd/City to the others might be vast, but  the reality is, as you've said, that there's a law of diminishing returns whether you're paying 30m or 80m for a player.

Most Scottish top flight teams would struggle to match English Championship wages, possibly League One. It's a real shame the wage cap has been scrapped as it could have played a huge part in raising the quality of players that clubs like yours and mine could have attracted.

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Are there any other leagues as one sided and only 2 teams have won the title for this long?

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1 hour ago, G51 said:

you would have been beaten like the dogs you are, and you know it

We'll never know. 
 

 

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3 minutes ago, CCB19035 said:

We'll never know. 
 

 

The top league team has the advantage.    I didn't really believe that until we were involved against whatever diddy team we scudded. 

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2 hours ago, Empty It said:

Are there any other leagues as one sided and only 2 teams have won the title for this long?

From memory Serie A is something mental like 20 years of just Juventus or a Milan side.

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7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

From memory Serie A is something mental like 20 years of just Juventus or a Milan side.

Portugal has only ever had five top-flight league winners in it's entire history. Porto and Benfica have won every title since the early 80's, barring 2 for Sporting Lisbon and 1 for Boavista at the turn of the millenium.

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On 07/03/2021 at 15:41, Richey Edwards said:

With today marking the first time in over three decades that a non-Old Firm team has won the title, do you think that another non-Old Firm team will win the title next season?

More chance of Richey Edwards being found. 

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4 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Apparently Leicesters wage bill was £80m that year, highest was Man U at £240m.

At that level though it becomes a bit weird. Leicester still had a squad full of experienced Internationals, and had spent over £30m on transfers that season.

This. 

The gulf is better measured as a multiple not a difference. 

Man Utd having 3 times Leicester's player budget is clearly less of a gap than Celtic having 50 times Kilmarnock's budget. 

 

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FC Twente, Rijeka, Montpellier, Boavista have all proven it is possible if you get very lucky and have the right combination of things go your way.

The changes to European football and our better coefficient mean that middling Scottish Clubs like Hibs and Aberdeen and (possibly Hearts and United) will be able earn more money in Europe via the Conf Leagues and Europa League. Which could provide a non-OF club the tools to build a very good squad and challenge for the title.

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I think there's a culture in Scottish football that's quite bizarre. Half the players of the team you or I support, support one half of the OF and pretty much bow down to them. Some of our best players over the past decade or so are never done speaking about Celtic (or Rangers of old) and that puts a team at a disadvantage straight away. Last time we were in the top flight, our captain, Darren O'Dea spent more time speaking about Celtic than he did us and then Kenny Miller vice versa.

Stuff like that spreads onto the pitch IMO. Even if it's subconciously. Too many players give the OF far too much respect. Boils my piss. Not that'd change the title holder - but the likes of Aberdeen should have given Celtic a bigger scare than they have and so should a few other teams over the years.

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On 08/03/2021 at 09:30, ahemps said:

Success in football nowadays is all down to finance. Celtic had an advantage over Rangers for years but that gap has closed significantly and it is no coincidence that Rangers have won the league while their wage bills are the closest they have been for 10 years.

Scotland has the highest wage disparity in European football. Celtics wage bill is larger than the 10 other teams in the league combined. Celtic have a wage bill that is 21 times that of Livingston and around 6-7 times that of Aberdeen. The OF have a larger advantage over Scottish football than PSG do in France. 

When Celtic got pumped from PSG Brendan Rodgers pointed to the wages bills and said it was too much for them to compete with while conveniently ignoring he had the same advantage over all but 1 team in Scotland.

It is impossible to compete.

If Aberdeen found themselves top of the league at Xmas I have no doubt Rangers and Celtic would simply buy 1 or 2 of their best players to kill off any serious challenge.

The gap in finance has got bigger over the last 20yrs and is getting worse but it is now happening to almost every other league. Even previously competitive leagues like France and Germany are now for the most part a 1 horse race.

 

 

You can mainly thank the champions league for that, the elite protection league.

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14 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Apparently Leicesters wage bill was £80m that year, highest was Man U at £240m.

At that level though it becomes a bit weird. Leicester still had a squad full of experienced Internationals, and had spent over £30m on transfers that season.

Agree with this.

Leicester also would have had a fair run with referees.

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14 hours ago, gannonball said:

Depends who it is tbh but the gulf in budgets is way under what Leicester would have had (talking well over a hundred million you would assume) when they won the EPL. Same could have been said for Atletico Madrid a few years ago also would say. Aberdeen just need two teams to have an off season where as Leicester needed about 4 teams who are season as proper title contenders. 
It would still be a notable and outstanding achievement but it would be nowhere near Leicesters one imo.

I call bullshit.

Celtics wage bill bigger than the other 10.

No such gap in England.

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13 hours ago, CCB19035 said:

Rules in place long before, if I'm not mistaken. 
 

Edit; what no one ever mentions re AFC finishing bottom is the fact we'd have had to negotiate a play off, where we could've won. 
 

So, it wasn't a stick on relegation avoided, it was the avoidance of a relegation play off. 

Dont baffle the diddies with the actual facts

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32 minutes ago, big al said:

I call bullshit.

Celtics wage bill bigger than the other 10.

No such gap in England.

Bullshit on what? What I said about the finances gap in England even turned out to be underestimated as proven by another poster. 

Aberdeen also have a huge wage bill compared to the likes of Hamilton etc so Im not too sure what your alluding to. The odds of Aberdeen winning the league generally aren’t astronomical like Leicesters was. I think the odds for Aberdeen to win the league the year Leicester did it were lower end double digits whilst Leicester were 5000/1. You simply cant ignore the difference in those odds.

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20 minutes ago, gannonball said:

Bullshit on what? What I said about the finances gap in England even turned out to be underestimated as proven by another poster. 

Aberdeen also have a huge wage bill compared to the likes of Hamilton etc so Im not too sure what your alluding to. The odds of Aberdeen winning the league generally aren’t astronomical like Leicesters was. I think the odds for Aberdeen to win the league the year Leicester did it were lower end double digits whilst Leicester were 5000/1. You simply cant ignore the difference in those odds.

You surely understand why Aberdeens odds are lower despite Leicester having a bigger advantage than Aberdeen?

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6 hours ago, Ludo*1 said:

I think there's a culture in Scottish football that's quite bizarre. Half the players of the team you or I support, support one half of the OF and pretty much bow down to them. Some of our best players over the past decade or so are never done speaking about Celtic (or Rangers of old) and that puts a team at a disadvantage straight away. Last time we were in the top flight, our captain, Darren O'Dea spent more time speaking about Celtic than he did us and then Kenny Miller vice versa.

Stuff like that spreads onto the pitch IMO. Even if it's subconciously. Too many players give the OF far too much respect. Boils my piss. Not that'd change the title holder - but the likes of Aberdeen should have given Celtic a bigger scare than they have and so should a few other teams over the years.

I think this is a bit overplayed at times. Kris Boyd was regularly in the media talking about Rangers when he played for us, and yet he relentlessly battered in the goals against them.

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