Frank Grimes Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Dandies1983 beats Strachanovski I’ve tried to challenge beef in the cup but he appears to be on vacation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 @ancientnoise You started up our Cup game and didn't make a move, so it timed out (the format mandates at least one move per day, and ideally we should have games finished in a week or two). Want to try again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N5 Spur Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Division B, Match 7 N5 Spur defeats XCTR94 / @SweeperDee by checkmate. Really good game on both sides, in the main, that had a number of game-changing moments. I felt I had the opening and early part of the mid-game, being a couple of pieces ahead and then looking to finish early by a lot of attacking. However, my opponent's excellent defence plus making the most of my (arrogant) unforced error (taking of my castle with his queen when I was being a bit too gung-ho in attacking) swung the game in his favour. A short burst of him chasing my king across the board put the in the ascendency but a sudden (very early in the morning) misplacing of his queen allowed me to fork (I think) both queen and king, and subsequently have a significant advantage, with the game ending not too long after in my favour. Hope that tells it how is was. Really could have gone either way - well played but unlucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 19 hours ago, Trogdor said: Aye, I suppose so. Madwullie Cup Result. Dearyme defeats markf268 @true_rover by resignation. I couldn't believe it when I chucked my Queen. Good game mate. You were a wee bit unlucky with the finish, the bank rank was too exposed when you lifted the Queen. I very much dislike 960 - continue my run of losing first round every time! Well played to turn it around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 On 25/09/2022 at 16:54, Trogdor said: I hate 960 53 minutes ago, true_rover said: I very much dislike 960 Me three - I'm very glad I got a bye so I can at least avoid a 1st round exit. Is there scope for a non-960 chess Cup? (Or is that overkill with too many tournaments to organise all at one time?) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, Albino Rover said: Me three - I'm very glad I got a bye so I can at least avoid a 1st round exit. Is there scope for a non-960 chess Cup? (Or is that overkill with too many tournaments to organise all at one time?) Certainly the amount of dissent is suggestive that we might look into changing the cup format next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aim Here said: Certainly the amount of dissent is suggestive that we might look into changing the cup format next season. Would a handicap format work? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, true_rover said: Would a handicap format work? So the instant questions on that are: How would you decide what the handicap is? Even ranking the players with the league, how strong do you make the handicap? Can it be played on chess.com or similar? Can you get both weaker and stronger players on board? If anything, 960 puts stronger players at a relative disadvantage because a lot of experience and learned knowledge of the start position doesn't apply anymore, and some of the people who've expressed a dislike for 960 - Ziggy and DearyMe for instance - fit in this bracket. You've just managed to get yourself a queen up against arguably the best chess player on P&B, and he's annoyed at 960 because he blundered into that position; you're seemingly annoyed because you didn't manage to win despite getting that advantage. I'm not sure how to go about creating a handicap system that reconciles both those views! Edited September 26, 2022 by Aim Here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Aim Here said: So the instant questions on that are: How would you decide what the handicap is? Even ranking the players with the league, how strong do you make the handicap? Can it be played on chess.com or similar? Can you get both weaker and stronger players on board? If anything, 960 puts stronger players at a relative disadvantage because a lot of experience and learned knowledge of the start position doesn't apply anymore, and some of the people who've expressed a dislike for 960 - Ziggy and DearyMe for instance - fit in this bracket. You've just managed to get yourself a queen up against arguably the best chess player on P&B, and he's annoyed at 960 because he blundered into that position; you're seemingly annoyed because you didn't manage to win despite getting that advantage. I'm not sure how to go about creating a handicap system that reconciles both those views! Not sure how well or otherwise it works, but have seen a balanced game come up when sending invites for matches - pretty sure it takes some pieces away at the start from the stronger player. Would rely on our chess.com rankings being relatively accurate! I'm ok if we keep going with 960 as well, I'm just frustrated that I'm worse than my mediocre level of regular chess! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, true_rover said: I'm ok if we keep going with 960 as well, I'm just frustrated that I'm worse than my mediocre level of regular chess! Are you really? You just spent 10-15 moves in a clearly winning position against DearyMe, from move 5 onwards. That's just not happening in regular chess. DearyMe would play the first 6-8 moves in his sleep in regular chess and you would never be more than half-a-pawn ahead, if you play perfectly. He slowly ground your advantage out over time, but he does that to everyone, outside of maybe the top 1 or 2 in Division A. He's the Anatoly Karpov of P&B. In football analogy, you're Alloa drawn against Celtic in the first stage of the Scottish Cup and you think you played badly because you lost after being 3-0 up at half time. It may be frustrating to get bumped off so early, but that's more to do with the relative quality of your opponent and the luck of the draw, rather than the specific game format. Edited September 26, 2022 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Aim Here said: Are you really? You just spent 10-15 moves in a clearly winning position against DearyMe, from move 5 onwards. That's just not happening in regular chess. DearyMe would play the first 6-8 moves in his sleep in regular chess and you would never be more than half-a-pawn ahead, if you play perfectly. He slowly ground your advantage out over time, but he does that to everyone, outside of maybe the top 1 or 2 in Division A. He's the Anatoly Karpov of P&B. In football analogy, you're Alloa drawn against Celtic in the first stage of the Scottish Cup and you think you played badly because you lost after being 3-0 up at half time. It may be frustrating to get bumped off so early, but that's more to do with the relative quality of your opponent and the luck of the draw, rather than the specific game format. It’s not a great claim to fame….but I used to play in the same Glasgow League team as a guy who once drew with Karpov. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Deans Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 21 hours ago, Aim Here said: Certainly the amount of dissent is suggestive that we might look into changing the cup format next season. Didn't enter this season. My view is should b like the Scottish Cup. You play who you draw at regular chess n take your luck if you get it. At the very least I want to improve n am happy to play anyone. My tuppence worth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I've never won a 960 game but I love the format. I also love getting a bye first round, best result I've had. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Deans Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Ken Dean's loses to Dandies by resignation. Well played and thanks for the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Cannot remember who I'm playing in the cup. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Cannot remember who I'm playing in the cup. Thank you. You're white, against KenDeans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 16 hours ago, Ken Deans said: Didn't enter this season. My view is should b like the Scottish Cup. You play who you draw at regular chess n take your luck if you get it. At the very least I want to improve n am happy to play anyone. My tuppence worth. This was what I had in mind - but as an additional tournament rather than a replacement, with 960 being the "League Cup". But I appreciate organising 3 leagues and a cup is already quite a lot! I quite like 960 being an option for those who want to participate. It has a "wildcard" element to it, and I am actually looking forward to my Second Round tie to see how I get on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Should we throw out invites to Mumsnet for our Challenge Cup equivalent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albino Rover Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Should we throw out invites to Mumsnet for our Challenge Cup equivalent? Round 1: Lorna_1978_xo vs Aim Here B 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N5 Spur Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 The_kid1433 / @the tungston weasel defeats N5 Spur by checkmate with a neat piece of work with 2 pawns giving me grief (one of which was promoted and put me in checkmate) at the end game, when I think it seemed (to me at least) that the game was heading my way. A close game overall but the smart move made all the difference. Very nicely played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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