vikingTON Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, archieb said: The sensible solution might be to create non-geographical conferences but, as the new applicants don't fit into the ABBA system, put Threave into the other conference once Campbeltown have been placed. The sensible solution is to point Threave back to the geographical league that they came from at tier 6 and tell them to stop ripping the pish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Assuming everyone is accepted in (and still including Darvel) this gives the WoSFL 81 clubs from* these areas... Argyll & Bute (1) Campbeltown Ayrshire (24) Ardeer, Ardrosson WR, Auchinleck, Beith, Bonnyton, Craigmark Burntonians, Cumnock, Dalry, Darvel, Eglinton, Girvan, Glenafton, Hurlford, Irvine Meadow, Irvine Vics, Kilbrinie, Kilwinning Rangers, Largs, Lugar BT, Maybole, Muirkirk, Saltcoats, Troon, Whitletts Dumfries & Galloway (2) (+ 11 in SoSFL [excluding B teams]) Kello Rovers, Threave Rovers Dunbartonshire (6) Clydebank, Rob Roy, Rossvale, Rossvale Academy, Vale of Leven, West Park Glasgow (17) Ashfield, Benburb, BSC Glasgow, Drumchapel, Easterhouse, Finnart, Perthshire, Glasgow United, Glasgow Uni, Harmony Row, Maryhill, Petershill, Pollok, St Ants, St Rocks, Vale of Clyde, Yoker Inverclyde (2) Greenock, Port Glasgow Lanarkshire (22) Bellshill, Blantyre, Academy, Blantyre Vics, Cambuslang, Carluke, Cumbernauld, EK Thistle, Forth, Gartcairn, Harthill, Kilsyth Athletic, Kilsyth Rangers, Lanark, Larkhall, Lesmahagow, Newmains, Royal Albert, Rutherglen, Shotts BA, Thorniewood, Wishaw Renfrewshire (8) Arthurlie, Glenvale, Johnstone, Neilston, Renfrew, St Cadocs, St Peters, Thorn Athletic *doesn't meant they're actually playing in those areas Edited May 13, 2022 by AsimButtHitsASix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, archieb said: The sensible solution might be to create non-geographical conferences but, as the new applicants don't fit into the ABBA system, put Threave into the other conference once Campbeltown have been placed. As there's still the choice between Division 3 Conferences and Div 3+4. I could see the tiered divisions option winning out. It doesn't sound like a lot of the current Div4 teams have sorted out suitable grounds, and we've seen what St Cadoc's & Drumchapel Utd can do when the team is prioritised over a home ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Going by the wiki standings this would be accurate as to what's being worked with. * B10 Port Glasgow 1 A11 Bellshill Athletic 2 A12 Girvan 3 A13 Lesmahagow Juniors 4 A14 Lugar Boswell Thistle 5 A15 Irvine Victoria 6 A16 Saltcoats Victoria 7 B11 Carluke Rovers 8 B12 Kello Rovers 9 B13 Dalry Thistle 10 B14 Newmains United 11 B15 Royal Albert 12 C10 Larkhall Thistle 13 C11 East Kilbride Thistle 14 C12 Vale of Clyde 15 C13 Ardrossan Winton Rovers 16 C14 Vale of Leven 17 C15 Lanark United 18 Div 4.1 Finnart 19 Div 4.2 Kilsyth Athletic 20 Div 4.3 Harmony Row 21 Div 4.4 St. Peter's 22 Div 4.5 Glenvale 23 Div 4.6 Campbeltown Pupils 24 Div 4.7 BSC Glasgow 25 Div 4.8 Harthill Royal 26 NEW Blantyre Soccer Academy 27 NEW Easterhouse 28 NEW Eglinton 29 NEW Rossvale Academy 30 NEW Thorn Athletic 31 NEW Threave Rovers 32 NEW West Park United 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South_Pride Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 What happens to the Rossvale going into Tier 7 if Rossvale academy are admitted? Surely you can’t have two clubs in the same set up with the same badge, base club etc? (Unless you are Celtic, Rangers or Hearts lol) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 What happens to the Rossvale going into Tier 7 if Rossvale academy are admitted? Surely you can’t have two clubs in the same set up with the same badge, base club etc? (Unless you are Celtic, Rangers or Hearts lol)Seems to be BSC/Broomhill type split so a name change likely beckons for one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, GNU_Linux said: 1 hour ago, South_Pride said: What happens to the Rossvale going into Tier 7 if Rossvale academy are admitted? Surely you can’t have two clubs in the same set up with the same badge, base club etc? (Unless you are Celtic, Rangers or Hearts lol) Seems to be BSC/Broomhill type split so a name change likely beckons for one of them. I suppose it's a process we'll see repeating itself with a lot of the newer football academy/former boys' club type teams...they enter ostensibly to provide a pathway into adult football for their academy players, perhaps naively thinking that their U21s or whatever will progress en masse as a group into senior football. Obviously that doesn't end up happening - in most cases if an age-group team produces three or four players capable of stepping up into semi-pro adult football, they've done well - and eventually what will happen is that the ambitions of the senior club's committee and management will outstrip the initial intentions and they'll start signing players with no previous connection to the club. Fast forward a few years and the first team's packed with players that have come in and the homegrown academy players don't get a look-in which causes the senior club's calving off from the academy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hague Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 6 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Assuming everyone is accepted in (and still including Darvel) this gives the WoSFL 81 clubs from* these areas... Argyll & Bute (1) Campbeltown Ayrshire (24) Ardeer, Ardrosson WR, Auchinleck, Beith, Bonnyton, Craigmark Burntonians, Cumnock, Dalry, Darvel, Eglinton, Girvan, Glenafton, Hurlford, Irvine Meadow, Irvine Vics, Kilbrinie, Kilwinning Rangers, Largs, Lugar BT, Maybole, Muirkirk, Saltcoats, Troon, Whitletts Dumfries & Galloway (2) (+ 11 in SoSFL [excluding B teams]) Kello Rovers, Threave Rovers Dunbartonshire (6) Clydebank, Rob Roy, Rossvale, Rossvale Academy, Vale of Leven, West Park Glasgow (17) Ashfield, Benburb, BSC Glasgow, Drumchapel, Easterhouse, Finnart, Perthshire, Glasgow United, Glasgow Uni, Harmony Row, Maryhill, Petershill, Pollok, St Ants, St Rocks, Vale of Clyde, Yoker Inverclyde (2) Greenock, Port Glasgow Lanarkshire (22) Bellshill, Blantyre, Academy, Blantyre Vics, Cambuslang, Carluke, Cumbernauld, EK Thistle, Forth, Gartcairn, Harthill, Kilsyth Athletic, Kilsyth Rangers, Lanark, Larkhall, Lesmahagow, Newmains, Royal Albert, Rutherglen, Shotts BA, Thorniewood, Wishaw Renfrewshire (8) Arthurlie, Glenvale, Johnstone, Neilston, Renfrew, St Cadocs, St Peters, Thorn Athletic *doesn't meant they're actually playing in those areas Clydebank and Yoker both play in Dunbartonshire and the street where bsc Glasgow will play next season is half in Dunbartonshire and half in Glasgow so not sure which list they should be on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieb Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Going by the wiki standings this would be accurate as to what's being worked with. * B10 Port Glasgow 1 A11 Bellshill Athletic 2 A12 Girvan 3 A13 Lesmahagow Juniors 4 A14 Lugar Boswell Thistle 5 A15 Irvine Victoria 6 A16 Saltcoats Victoria 7 B11 Carluke Rovers 8 B12 Kello Rovers 9 B13 Dalry Thistle 10 B14 Newmains United 11 B15 Royal Albert 12 C10 Larkhall Thistle 13 C11 East Kilbride Thistle 14 C12 Vale of Clyde 15 C13 Ardrossan Winton Rovers 16 C14 Vale of Leven 17 C15 Lanark United 18 Div 4.1 Finnart 19 Div 4.2 Kilsyth Athletic 20 Div 4.3 Harmony Row 21 Div 4.4 St. Peter's 22 Div 4.5 Glenvale 23 Div 4.6 Campbeltown Pupils 24 Div 4.7 BSC Glasgow 25 Div 4.8 Harthill Royal 26 NEW Blantyre Soccer Academy 27 NEW Easterhouse 28 NEW Eglinton 29 NEW Rossvale Academy 30 NEW Thorn Athletic 31 NEW Threave Rovers 32 NEW West Park United More useful, I think, to list the conference teams in order of points-per-game rather than by conference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Hearing that Harthill Royal could be returning to their roots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 19:36, South_Pride said: What happens to the Rossvale going into Tier 7 if Rossvale academy are admitted? Surely you can’t have two clubs in the same set up with the same badge, base club etc? (Unless you are Celtic, Rangers or Hearts lol) Broomhill 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Hearing that Harthill Royal could be returning to their roots. Plenty of people said at the time they might regret the decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Plenty of people said at the time they might regret the decision. It's just a rumour but it would make sense from a local game perspective. They should never have moved IMO, although if they do move back they haven't lost anything much as they wouldn't have been in the promotion hunt in X this season anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycouch Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/new-kid-block-ayrshire-side-27051857?fbclid=IwAR0IqBC2Lau0hZJRJG3c3jOqbAuUnkkuIp92mCsoPbJzKY9yGYGFSr3icdo&fs=e&s=clGiven this doesn’t meet a large number of the criteria I can’t see this being approved. What’s everyone else’s thoughts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, jimmycouch said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/ayrshire/new-kid-block-ayrshire-side-27051857?fbclid=IwAR0IqBC2Lau0hZJRJG3c3jOqbAuUnkkuIp92mCsoPbJzKY9yGYGFSr3icdo&fs=e&s=cl Given this doesn’t meet a large number of the criteria I can’t see this being approved. What’s everyone else’s thoughts? I would have thought one of the first things to be checked out is an applicant's ground plans. If the names out there are supposed to be getting voted on. They must have ticked that box with whatever their intentions are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: I would have thought one of the first things to be checked out is an applicant's ground plans. If the names out there are supposed to be getting voted on. They must have ticked that box with whatever their intentions are. It will be interesting to see if the clubs think that taking in a rebranded amateur club (Eglinton) or a club from another Pyramid League (Threave Rovers) is OK. They would be taking places (in future) from existing clubs from the established WoS area. Is that wise? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 15:27, AsimButtHitsASix said: Assuming everyone is accepted in (and still including Darvel) this gives the WoSFL 81 clubs from* these areas... Argyll & Bute (1) Campbeltown Ayrshire (24) Ardeer, Ardrosson WR, Auchinleck, Beith, Bonnyton, Craigmark Burntonians, Cumnock, Dalry, Darvel, Eglinton, Girvan, Glenafton, Hurlford, Irvine Meadow, Irvine Vics, Kilbrinie, Kilwinning Rangers, Largs, Lugar BT, Maybole, Muirkirk, Saltcoats, Troon, Whitletts Dumfries & Galloway (2) (+ 11 in SoSFL [excluding B teams]) Kello Rovers, Threave Rovers Dunbartonshire (6) Clydebank, Rob Roy, Rossvale, Rossvale Academy, Vale of Leven, West Park Glasgow (17) Ashfield, Benburb, BSC Glasgow, Drumchapel, Easterhouse, Finnart, Perthshire, Glasgow United, Glasgow Uni, Harmony Row, Maryhill, Petershill, Pollok, St Ants, St Rocks, Vale of Clyde, Yoker Inverclyde (2) Greenock, Port Glasgow Lanarkshire (22) Bellshill, Blantyre, Academy, Blantyre Vics, Cambuslang, Carluke, Cumbernauld, EK Thistle, Forth, Gartcairn, Harthill, Kilsyth Athletic, Kilsyth Rangers, Lanark, Larkhall, Lesmahagow, Newmains, Royal Albert, Rutherglen, Shotts BA, Thorniewood, Wishaw Renfrewshire (8) Arthurlie, Glenvale, Johnstone, Neilston, Renfrew, St Cadocs, St Peters, Thorn Athletic *doesn't meant they're actually playing in those areas If us and Yoker permanently groundshare then how can we be in W Dumbartonshire and they're in Glasgow ? Yoker historically covered a bigger area than the current Glasgow part and Holm Park is 100% in Clydebank and therefore in W Dumbartonshire. Yoker are and always have been a Clydebank team ( whether they like it or not ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, BANKIEBILL said: If us and Yoker permanently groundshare then how can we be in W Dumbartonshire and they're in Glasgow ? Because Yoker is part of Glasgow and Clydebank isn't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hague Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Because Yoker is part of Glasgow and Clydebank isn't Yoker athletic have never played a home game in Glasgow they have always been a Clydebank club despite their name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Because Yoker is part of Glasgow and Clydebank isn't They've always played at Holm Park which has been in Clydebank for around 130 years. Yoker the area was bigger than the part within Glasgow boundary. Just saying 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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