Ewanandmoreagain Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Are you kidding? Both Tierney and Hickey are more than capable of playing in the position Robertson played last night, with another player filling in for them. We're so awash with talent at LB that we're leaving out a guy absolutely tearing up Serie A. Josh ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgin Macca Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Would Hickey be our Number 1 right back/wing back now? I think if both fully fit Hickey is a better defender but Paterson looks better going forward. Could be a horses for courses type thing with them depending on the opposition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Elgin Macca said: Would Hickey be our Number 1 right back/wing back now? I think if both fully fit Hickey is a better defender but Paterson looks better going forward. Could be a horses for courses type thing with them depending on the opposition. A great dilemma for Steve Clark to have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I reckon Hickey is by far the superior player, though Patterson is still most excellent. Been saying for a while now I think Hickey will end up in the centre of midfield as he absolutely has the game for it. Be ideal if that happened then we wouldn't need to bench either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Having watched quite a bit of both of them over the last couple of seasons, I'm actually shocked at how similar they've been. Their profiles are almost completely different yet Patterson this season has been tasked with using his dribbling and passing to work the ball inside from full-back without contributing much/anything in the final third - that's almost the exact same as Hickey! Hopefully it was just a tactical quirk of Lampard that meant we haven't see much of Patterson in an attacking sense this season, but he definitely needs to improve on his final ball if he wants to be properly unleashed. I think Ramsay's a better prospect than both, but his injuries and lack of genuinely good form in senior football are concerning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I must admit, prior to the double header I didn't think neither Hickey nor Patterson were starting for their clubs. Down to my own ignorance and not really following football outside of the Scottish leagues. Normally I try to see how most Scottish players are getting on beyond just looking to see if they were in the starting line-up and subsequently stumbled on this Fox Sports resource. Anyone seen it/use it? I think it is excellent - obviously the bigger the team/sport/player the more updates there are (hardly any for say Hibs) and am sure there are other similar resources but will definitely be clocking back into this in future particularly to check on progress of any injured key players ahead of squad announcements: https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/aaron-hickey-player https://www.foxsports.com/soccer/nathan-patterson-player 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Hickey's a better player than Patterson. But the drop off to Patterson is small enough to not care. And who knows about Calvin Ramsay, looks like he'll be up there too This means there should be no O'Donnel or Cadden types getting capped for the next 10 years thank the heavens -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Jives Miguel said: Hickey's a better player than Patterson. But the drop off to Patterson is small enough to not care. And who knows about Calvin Ramsay, looks like he'll be up there too This means there should be no O'Donnel or Cadden types getting capped for the next 10 years thank the heavens No thanks. That would mean we wouldn't get magical moments like this: or this: Good times! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 hours ago, accies1874 said: Having watched quite a bit of both of them over the last couple of seasons, I'm actually shocked at how similar they've been. Their profiles are almost completely different yet Patterson this season has been tasked with using his dribbling and passing to work the ball inside from full-back without contributing much/anything in the final third - that's almost the exact same as Hickey! Hopefully it was just a tactical quirk of Lampard that meant we haven't see much of Patterson in an attacking sense this season, but he definitely needs to improve on his final ball if he wants to be properly unleashed. I think Ramsay's a better prospect than both, but his injuries and lack of genuinely good form in senior football are concerning. Patterson is like Tierney In that his strength is getting down that line to the byeline Unfortunately this inverted full backs fad has hampered both of them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, Binos said: Patterson is like Tierney In that his strength is getting down that line to the byeline Unfortunately this inverted full backs fad has hampered both of them Patterson is very good at coming inside - either dribbling wise or coming inside and linking up off either foot IMO. Hopefully Dyche can improve him defensively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Patterson is very good at coming inside - either dribbling wise or coming inside and linking up off either foot IMO. Hopefully Dyche can improve him defensively. He showed this well home and away against Moldova in the last campaign. I’d probably have him over Hickey against weaker teams as he’s more dangerous going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 8 hours ago, lubo_blaha said: He showed this well home and away against Moldova in the last campaign. I’d probably have him over Hickey against weaker teams as he’s more dangerous going forward. I agree with this. Patterson is an athlete and has pace to burn. I’d have him running at poor defences or tired defenders. Hickey’s defensive position and decision making seems absurdly good for his age. He also seems to work well with Porteous I like what’s been said before - possibly ‘horses for courses’ and if either start/finish then I wouldn’t blink. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 Patterson not in Everton squad which seems a bit odd 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Tartan Dave said: Patterson not in Everton squad which seems a bit odd Dyche very much seems the type to go for experience and reliability rather than a young up and coming prospect. I think Patterson will end up having to leave for first team football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted April 3, 2023 Share Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: Dyche very much seems the type to go for experience and reliability rather than a young up and coming prospect. I think Patterson will end up having to leave for first team football. He definitely is, unfortunately. Partterson would be an excellent sub to bring on right about now though, to provide a bit more attacking impetus. Poor if Dyche can’t even see that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Dyche doesn't think he's ready and pretty much said as much in his press conference recently. Something along the lines of Patterson having "development to do." He's pretty much in the same position as he was this time last year, but hopefully Dyche will get Everton out of bother earlier and maybe give Patterson some game time at the end of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Dyche doesn't think he's ready and pretty much said as much in his press conference recently. Something along the lines of Patterson having "development to do." He's pretty much in the same position as he was this time last year, but hopefully Dyche will get Everton out of bother earlier and maybe give Patterson some game time at the end of the season. Of course he does - he is 21 years old. If he can be trusted to come off the bench against Spain, in place of someone who is clearly good enough at EPL level, then he can be trusted to come off the bench for Everton if they need a goal or whatever. I can accept that Dyche doesn’t think he is worth the risk to start right now given the improvement the defensive side of his game needs, but it’s nonsense to think he isn’t ready to offer something off the bench. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, No_Problemo said: Of course he does - he is 21 years old. If he can be trusted to come off the bench against Spain, in place of someone who is clearly good enough at EPL level, then he can be trusted to come off the bench for Everton if they need a goal or whatever. I can accept that Dyche doesn’t think he is worth the risk to start right now given the improvement the defensive side of his game needs, but it’s nonsense to think he isn’t ready to offer something off the bench. Not the best week to be saying that about Hickey... I suppose Dyche will be thinking that with Godfrey at LB he can bring Mykolenko on for Coleman and shift Godfrey over to provide a bit more athleticism down the right - like last night. I'd much rather have Patterson in that situation than Godfrey, but I'm just offering some perspective on why Dyche might not think that way. His form in between his two injuries will concern Dyche too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB_Bino Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 31/03/2023 at 12:30, Gordopolis said: I reckon Hickey is by far the superior player, though Patterson is still most excellent. Been saying for a while now I think Hickey will end up in the centre of midfield as he absolutely has the game for it. Be ideal if that happened then we wouldn't need to bench either. Craig Levien has been saying this (on BBC Scotland) regularly since Hickey broke through at Hearts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 31/03/2023 at 12:30, Gordopolis said: I reckon Hickey is by far the superior player, though Patterson is still most excellent. Been saying for a while now I think Hickey will end up in the centre of midfield as he absolutely has the game for it. Be ideal if that happened then we wouldn't need to bench either. We would have to bench someone from midfield then tho, which isn't an easy decision either. I agree if he was to hes likely to be more of a holding midfielder. But its really up to if that happens at club level first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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