Forest_Fifer Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Yeah, I know it's the Sun...https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6628116/scottish-league-one-two-resume-season-next-week/Restart playing in early March, play until May/June. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Playing till June opens up the possibility of players being out of contract before the end of the season. If enough are OOC, then they could have a gun to the clubs heads re new or extended contracts, and some could even move to a competitor with 3/4 games to go. Not a great solution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banditjag Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 35 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: Playing till June opens up the possibility of players being out of contract before the end of the season. If enough are OOC, then they could have a gun to the clubs heads re new or extended contracts, and some could even move to a competitor with 3/4 games to go. Not a great solution. Personally I see this as a non issue. Apart from most players will just be desperate to play to the end of the season, most who are coming to the end of their contract won't have deals tied up for next season until the close season. This is normal for the players to keep their options open but more so clubs can save on paying wages needlessly between seasons. Also, I don't expect many players at our level being fought over by multiple clubs and wouldn't expect many players to have multiple offers, so would fully expect any player out of contract in May to have a rolling weekly contract to the end of the season. I'd have thought most players will be as desperate as us fans to complete the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Playing till June opens up the possibility of players being out of contract before the end of the season. If enough are OOC, then they could have a gun to the clubs heads re new or extended contracts, and some could even move to a competitor with 3/4 games to go. Not a great solution.In these uncertain times, does it really matter if the season finishes with a different squad ?But, Isn’t it about time that clubs start giving contracts based on seasons as opposed to months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The biggest issue with playing until June remains the play-offs. They would be at least six weeks after the Championship finishes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: In these uncertain times, does it really matter if the season finishes with a different squad ? But, Isn’t it about time that clubs start giving contracts based on seasons as opposed to months. Of course it matters if promotion/relegation is at stake. If we lost Goodwillie for example because he was off elsewhere, and wanted to avoid injury while playing with us he could just not sign an extension, and that could be a key point in our survival or not ( cue someone saying no one else would have him). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: But, Isn’t it about time that clubs start giving contracts based on seasons as opposed to months. Someone else will probably know better than me, but surely footballers are on, essentially, fixed term contracts, so I would have thought those need a specified end date. I wouldn’t have thought you can just put “the end of the 20/21 season” as that would lead to disputes about when exactly the season ended, surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Someone else will probably know better than me, but surely footballers are on, essentially, fixed term contracts, so I would have thought those need a specified end date. I wouldn’t have thought you can just put “the end of the 20/21 season” as that would lead to disputes about when exactly the season ended, surely? Football contracts need to be at least until the next transfer window. So anyone signed in the summer needs a contract that ends in January as a minimum, anyone signing in January needs a contract that takes him to the summer. The contract will of course have an end date, it's just that date isn't usually published for fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Football contracts need to be at least until the next transfer window. So anyone signed in the summer needs a contract that ends in January as a minimum, anyone signing in January needs a contract that takes him to the summer. The contract will of course have an end date, it's just that date isn't usually published for fans. From memory it is normally May 31st 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: From memory it is normally May 31st Yeah, think that used to be the case but I believe now contracts need to run until the transfer window opens. I think that is the 9th of June, normally. I've read some conflicting info on that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Of course it matters if promotion/relegation is at stake. If we lost Goodwillie for example because he was off elsewhere, and wanted to avoid injury while playing with us he could just not sign an extension, and that could be a key point in our survival or not ( cue someone saying no one else would have him).It is really only relatively recently that transfer windows have been in place, so this scenario doesn’t really bother me. But as I said this season and last have been unusual and it is better to finish the season if at all possible without throwing in more obstacles, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 The biggest issue with playing until June remains the play-offs. They would be at least six weeks after the Championship finishes.I would say that as league 1 and 2 didn’t have any say in the pause, they surely shouldn’t be disadvantaged by having to meet the championship deadline. At least the Championship clubs have got time to do something about their finishing position. If they end up in the playoffs, isn’t it possible that they have to put up with it for 1 season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirkthebigclub Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Please don't tell me we're seriously considering 27 games. It has to be reduced to an 18 game season, Shirley? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: From memory it is normally May 31st 57 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Yeah, think that used to be the case but I believe now contracts need to run until the transfer window opens. I think that is the 9th of June, normally. I've read some conflicting info on that though. You're both right. Moonster is completely right. The minimum length of a contract is to the start of the NEXT transfer window. So a player signed in January MUST run to at least 9th June. However a player signed last September can, and probably does, have a contract ending in May as it was only compulsory at that point for them to run beyond January 1st. If an existing player contract expires in May before the season ends, and under existing rules it is extended, then the minimum length will be to June 9th. If it's already June 9th then the next minimum length is January 1st 2022. All of which means in practical terms you absolutely would have to have completed the season including all playoffs by June 9th or else players will move clubs and the season ends in farce. 4 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said: I would say that as league 1 and 2 didn’t have any say in the pause, they surely shouldn’t be disadvantaged by having to meet the championship deadline. At least the Championship clubs have got time to do something about their finishing position. If they end up in the playoffs, isn’t it possible that they have to put up with it for 1 season. Championship clubs didn't have any say in it either. There's absolutely zero chance Championship clubs are going to agree to contract players for extensions while they wait for League 1 to finish several weeks later. Neither are players likely to be desperate to agree it either. I think realistically if you want a 2nd promotion slot they are going to have to be in a position to confirm who is playing in it by at least mid May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: If we lost Goodwillie for example because he was off elsewhere, Prison? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: Prison? Uniquely funny! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted February 4, 2021 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Championship clubs didn't have any say in it either. There's absolutely zero chance Championship clubs are going to agree to contract players for extensions while they wait for League 1 to finish several weeks later. Neither are players likely to be desperate to agree it either. I think realistically if you want a 2nd promotion slot they are going to have to be in a position to confirm who is playing in it by at least mid May.Given the contract issues getting it all done by 9th June should be acceptable to all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazz1903 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) Scottish football is an absolute farce, how is ok for Dunfermline to travel to Arbroath ? But Montrose can't travel to Methil ? Total farce ........... Edited February 6, 2021 by tazz1903 ADD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 TBF it would have been an even bigger farce if Arbroath had travelled to Dunfermline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazz1903 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, The Phoenix said: TBF it would have been an even bigger farce if Arbroath had travelled to Dunfermline. C aye , made an edit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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