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SFA just announced a lockdown of League One and Two until at least 31/01 and a suspension of the Scottish Cup.

Joke of a decision tbh. How many confirmed cases or issues due to close contact have we seen in the lower leagues? And yet the top flight has had loads of confirmed cases, seen loads of players having to isolate and had one team f**k off for a jolly to Dubai, only to return to Scotland with a player confirmed as Covid positive?

If we were following the evidence then the top flight should be suspended and the lower league players recognised for being able to follow advice. Just end the season now. No promotion. No relegation. f**k it. 

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It is entirely the correct decision. You had the ludicrous possibility on Saturday of Clyde players and club chaplains travelling the full length of the country to play in a match that wasn't even going to be live-streamed. All this at a time where the virus is rife and people outside the game can't even have a kickabout in the park with more than one other person.

The idea of trying to complete this season was fanciful at best, completely idiotic at worst.

 

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8 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:

SFA just announced a lockdown of League One and Two until at least 31/01 and a suspension of the Scottish Cup.

Joke of a decision tbh. How many confirmed cases or issues due to close contact have we seen in the lower leagues? And yet the top flight has had loads of confirmed cases, seen loads of players having to isolate and had one team f**k off for a jolly to Dubai, only to return to Scotland with a player confirmed as Covid positive?

If we were following the evidence then the top flight should be suspended and the lower league players recognised for being able to follow advice. Just end the season now. No promotion. No relegation. f**k it. 

No players in the Championship or below had to be tested. Everybody in the Premiership were tested weekly. That’s why the only cases have been from the top tier.

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1 minute ago, David W said:

It is entirely the correct decision. You had the ludicrous possibility on Saturday of Clyde players and club chaplains travelling the full length of the country to play in a match that wasn't even going to be live-streamed. All this at a time where the virus is rife and people outside the game can't even have a kickabout in the park with more than one other person.

The idea of trying to complete this season was fanciful at best, completely idiotic at worst.

 

How many lower league players have tested positive?

How many lower league players have had to self-isolate?

Top flight - a load of positive cases and self-isolating players and yet it continues unaffected. Either suspend all football or none. It's ok for Killie to travel to Aberdeen - 2 teams who have had Covid issues this season - but not for Dumbarton to travel to Montrose?

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Just now, PB1994 said:

No players in the Championship or below had to be tested. Everybody in the Premiership were tested weekly. That’s why the only cases have been from the top tier.

Anybody experiencing symptoms would have booked a test via the NHS. They would have had to report the test results to their clubs and to any non-football employer for test and trace purposes. The idea that lower league players who rely on income from outside of football would fail to book a test if they started displaying symptoms is nonsense. And as close contacts, any positive tests would be reported to clubs for test and trace purposes by the players themselves or via the government test and trace process.

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Presumably players will not be able to continue with normal training either, after 3 weeks off & no training it will be like another close season difficult to see how season can be completed under these restrictions

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7 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:

Anybody experiencing symptoms would have booked a test via the NHS. They would have had to report the test results to their clubs and to any non-football employer for test and trace purposes. The idea that lower league players who rely on income from outside of football would fail to book a test if they started displaying symptoms is nonsense. And as close contacts, any positive tests would be reported to clubs for test and trace purposes by the players themselves or via the government test and trace process.

Most of the Premiership players who tested positive will have had no symptoms at all, and if it wasn't for the regular testing probably wouldn't even know they had it.

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I wanted this season to go ahead but from about September onwards have thought it was completely stupid the more and more the reality set in. This will without doubt last longer than 3 weeks, discussion is going to have to begin pretty quickly about the exact same thing as last year, null and void, average points...

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Just now, craigkillie said:

Most of the Premiership players who tested positive will have had no symptoms at all, and if it wasn't for the regular testing probably wouldn't even know they had it.

Not buying that at all.

If football was an issue then even asymptomatic players would pass the virus on to others who would display symptoms. There is absolutely no evidence that this is happening.

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There's no evidence because there's been no testing. Expect to see a good few positives in the Championship when they start.

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2 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said:

There's no evidence because there's been no testing. Expect to see a good few positives in the Championship when they start.

So lower league players have ben Covid positive but have had an asymptomatic infection. Every single one of them. Nobody in the lower leagues displayed symptoms? Nobody had to be tested because they have jobs outside of football where their employers would insist on them being tested? It's all been asymptomatic Covid and nobody has displayed any symptoms at all? Or everybody has and they've just hushed it up? Nobody was tested despite showing symptoms?

Itchy chin with those 2 alternatives.

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Big problem for League 1 is not everyone has played everyone else once so can't see how they would do average points

I wanted this season to go ahead but from about September onwards have thought it was completely stupid the more and more the reality set in. This will without doubt last longer than 3 weeks, discussion is going to have to begin pretty quickly about the exact same thing as last year, null and void, average points...

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1 minute ago, fatdoug1938 said:

Big problem for League 1 is not everyone has played everyone else once so can't see how they would do average points

Indeed. Probably a bit too early to be voiding it, though am I right in saying a few of the English lower leagues have already had that discussion? 

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What’s the opinions, will the season will be null and voided? 
Pushed back?
Points per game? 

Whatever happens it will likely be messy.

Edited by R&Y99

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3 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:

So lower league players have ben Covid positive but have had an asymptomatic infection. Every single one of them. Nobody in the lower leagues displayed symptoms? Nobody had to be tested because they have jobs outside of football where their employers would insist on them being tested? It's all been asymptomatic Covid and nobody has displayed any symptoms at all? Or everybody has and they've just hushed it up? Nobody was tested despite showing symptoms?

Itchy chin with those 2 alternatives.

Every league in world football that IS testing have returned positive cases. Some a lot, some a little, some varying. 

Had lower leagues here been testing up to now, it is inevitable that we'd have had our share of positive tests, too. There is no logical reason to imagine we'd have been unique in world football. 

This is a kick in the fucking soul and I hate it, but given that emergency corpse storage units are being set up down south on the back of overflowing morgues, it's a kick we just have to take for now in the hopes that these efforts stop us getting as bad as that up here. 

 

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If we can and it might be a big if we can get the season kicked off again I think dropping the season down to 18 games may be put on the table at some point.

Edited by Rbon

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If they end up back in March or sooner I think they can finish the season as normal. If it's any later then they'll have to do something.

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10 minutes ago, BallochSonsFan said:

So lower league players have ben Covid positive but have had an asymptomatic infection. Every single one of them. Nobody in the lower leagues displayed symptoms? Nobody had to be tested because they have jobs outside of football where their employers would insist on them being tested? It's all been asymptomatic Covid and nobody has displayed any symptoms at all? Or everybody has and they've just hushed it up? Nobody was tested despite showing symptoms?

Itchy chin with those 2 alternatives.

There have been games outside the top two tiers postponed because of covid outbreaks.

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2 minutes ago, Rbon said:

If we can and it might be a big if, I think dropping the season down to 18 games may be put on the table at some point.

This would be my choice too but there's no way clubs in danger of relegation would agree to this. 

The leagues won't start again and they'll be voided.

Pretty brutal tbh. I get why it's been stopped and this is a very minor point but I've enjoyed having our games every week with the associated discussions with friends/family around them. Disappointed to see it stopped.

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