Boo Khaki Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 It's not just the Dolphins. High pick WR's flame out or underwhelm at a phenomenal rate, hence why I'm always banging on about them being a silly draft pick. I totally accept that if you have a Calvin Johnson level talent sitting there, then yes, of course you take the chance, but ordinarily, unless you are looking for a QB you are far better spending that pick on a pass rusher, OL, Corner etc. I'm still fucking furious with Tom Telesco for taking Mike Williams at #7. Nothing he did in college justified that pick, and he's done nothing in the NFL to justify it either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 The only WR worth a high pick in this draft is Chase, and you’d imagine he won’t get past No.5. Kyle Pitts is also worth a high pick despite being a TE. Guy tested like a freak and produced well in college. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, G51 said: The only WR worth a high pick in this draft is Chase, and you’d imagine he won’t get past No.5. Kyle Pitts is also worth a high pick despite being a TE. Guy tested like a freak and produced well in college. Pitt’s could definitely play WR as well 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, lichtie23 said: Pitt’s could definitely play WR as well You can probably just line him up wherever you want to tbh. He’s a matchup problem. Could play him as an X receiver like the Dolphins did with Gesicki. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted April 12, 2021 Author Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, G51 said: You can probably just line him up wherever you want to tbh. He’s a matchup problem. Could play him as an X receiver like the Dolphins did with Gesicki. And he looks twice the player Gesicki is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 What are people's thoughts on this year's QB class, for those of us that don't follow the college game? Which are likely to be megastars, which could be solid starters, which might make a good career for themselves and which are overrated and likely to be practice squad fodder or unemployed in a few seasons? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Out the League in a few years will be whoever Da Bears trade up for in this year's Draft.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishyTON Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 What are people's thoughts on this year's QB class, for those of us that don't follow the college game? Which are likely to be megastars, which could be solid starters, which might make a good career for themselves and which are overrated and likely to be practice squad fodder or unemployed in a few seasons?Trevor Lawrence is a concensus generational talent and has been forecast as being the number 1 overall pick in this draft since his freshman season. He is the best prospect since Andrew Luck or arguably even Peyton Manning. He is the safest pick and also has a very high upside.Then you have a gap to the next four QBs. You have a high floor but low upside pick in Mac Jones and three players who gave huge potential in Wilson, Fields and Lance.It is one of the better QB classes in the last decade plus. I suspect all five of them will been gone by pick 9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 So worth the Bears giving up at least this year's pick (19) and next year's first rounder to move up to get one of those five? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishyTON Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 It is situation dependent. For the Bears I would say definitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 My opinion is we may as well gamble because if we don't address the QB situation we are fucked anyway. I know we obviously won't get Lawrence but hoping we get a top five QB and he turns out to be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I feel like Lawrence will fail because of his hair. Jones will be average because Alabama QB’s always suck and he’s had 2/3 of the best in college. Wilson will be good but the Jets are cursed so he’ll be in the Rivers/Stafford category of being good but winning f**k all. No clue about Fields. Lance will be class but only if he goes to the Pats. I don’t watch any college so these opinions are completely pointless but maybe I’ll be seen as the best scout or stupidest c**t in NFL history in 10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 hours ago, BishyTON said: Trevor Lawrence is a concensus generational talent and has been forecast as being the number 1 overall pick in this draft since his freshman season. He is the best prospect since Andrew Luck or arguably even Peyton Manning. He is the safest pick and also has a very high upside. He’s physically tough, mentally tough, the kind of kid that you can trust. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BishyTON Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 He’s physically tough, mentally tough, the kind of kid that you can trust.Yeah exactly. He is going to be a very good player at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 The only thing I have a concern about with Lawrence is his physique. Yep, he has great size for a QB, and having seen him shirtless it's clear he's ripped, however, he doesn't appear to have any mass or bulk to that musculature at all. People will say 'oh a year or two in an NFL program', but that's really not how things work with QB's. Their mechanics are so important that they can't just beef up to protect themselves in the way that players at other positions can. I'd be worried that after a couple of years behind an iffy OL, if he starts taking a regular beating that he just won't hold up. This is total nit-picking, because I think on talent he really has it all, including the mobility to run away from the rush in most situations, but generally there aren't a lot of long-lived successful but stringy QB's around, even the ones that are tall and stringy like TL. I still think that in all likelihood he'll go on to have a great NFL career and just be a bit of an anomaly, but when I see him I can't help but think that he's a bit frail looking for a guy that is being talked up as the sort of prospect that comes around every 20-30 years. I like a bit of podge on my QB's. It has it's uses in the NFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Chief Bears writer for the Tribune seems to think we are going for a WR or CB and he's usually on the money.Would prefer an OT.Can't see us being able to trade up to 4 in the draft, for the 4th QB chosen most like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) On 12/04/2021 at 12:47, The Golden God said: I feel like Lawrence will fail because of his hair. Jones will be average because Alabama QB’s always suck and he’s had 2/3 of the best in college. Wilson will be good but the Jets are cursed so he’ll be in the Rivers/Stafford category of being good but winning f**k all. No clue about Fields. Lance will be class but only if he goes to the Pats. I don’t watch any college so these opinions are completely pointless but maybe I’ll be seen as the best scout or stupidest c**t in NFL history in 10 years. Most NFL scouts' opinions are completely pointless as well. Edited April 15, 2021 by AmericanFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 On 12/04/2021 at 06:46, Bully Wee Villa said: What are people's thoughts on this year's QB class, for those of us that don't follow the college game? Which are likely to be megastars, which could be solid starters, which might make a good career for themselves and which are overrated and likely to be practice squad fodder or unemployed in a few seasons? Like the rest of the draft, it's a complete crapshoot. Lawrence is obviously the best talent coming out of college. Will he be a star? Who knows. Every other guy has major question marks. I think Jones is the next best, but he played with all-star talent and there's really no way to know how any of these guys will pan out. Wilson was apparently bad against the blitz and played a very weak schedule, Lance has too small a sample size and played against bad competition, and Fields wasn't particularly good against some mediocre competition like Indiana and Northwestern. Lawrence will likely start from week 1. The others aren't ready to start and need to sit, but a few will likely start anyway because it's the NFL. Wilson and Lance have never thrown against decent secondaries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanFan Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) On 12/04/2021 at 06:28, lichtie23 said: Pitt’s could definitely play WR as well On 12/04/2021 at 06:38, G51 said: You can probably just line him up wherever you want to tbh. He’s a matchup problem. Could play him as an X receiver like the Dolphins did with Gesicki. K-State tight end Briley Moore a "close" second to Pitts as the best TE in this draft. Spoiler And by "close" I mean will be lucky to be drafted in the seventh round and is most likely signed as an undrafted free agent. Edited April 15, 2021 by AmericanFan more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Maybe it’s just me, but it really feels like the draft has snuck up on me this year. Less than two weeks away! On 15/04/2021 at 05:44, AmericanFan said: K-State tight end Briley Moore a "close" second to Pitts as the best TE in this draft. Hide contents And by "close" I mean will be lucky to be drafted in the seventh round and is most likely signed as an undrafted free agent. We’re all homers from time to time aren’t we 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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