TheAftonBear 1 Report post Posted January 15 Fitba without fans is nothing. Season shouldn't have started without fans in first place. If this season is completed and it looks like a big if then all fans of the team that wins the league will forever hear is "you won that league without 5 teams that should have been in it" 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inanimate Carbon Rod 6,170 Report post Posted January 15 25 minutes ago, TheAftonBear said: Fitba without fans is nothing. Season shouldn't have started without fans in first place. If this season is completed and it looks like a big if then all fans of the team that wins the league will forever hear is "you won that league without 5 teams that should have been in it" And im sure the fans of that club wont really care. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAftonBear 1 Report post Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: And im sure the fans of that club wont really care. What's that ment to mean? 😂 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inanimate Carbon Rod 6,170 Report post Posted January 15 2 minutes ago, TheAftonBear said: What's that ment to mean? 😂 Well for me, if Clydebank won the league and someone said as you have in your post ‘aye but 5 teams weren’t playing’, id really not care. Im pretty sure Darvel, Troon or Kilwinning wouldn’t care either, I doubt anyone’s going to decline the league trophy because they feel sad some sat the season out for whatever public or private reasons they did so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAftonBear 1 Report post Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Well for me, if Clydebank won the league and someone said as you have in your post ‘aye but 5 teams weren’t playing’, id really not care. Im pretty sure Darvel, Troon or Kilwinning wouldn’t care either, I doubt anyone’s going to decline the league trophy because they feel sad some sat the season out for whatever public or private reasons they did so. Aye its still an achievment but less so when there's 5 teams missing , at least 3 of which would have been challenging for the title. But like it or not it will always be remembered as a unique season that wasn't competed with all the teams. Hopefully the only time that can be said though 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FairWeatherFan 4,025 Report post Posted January 15 2 hours ago, TheAftonBear said: Fitba without fans is nothing. Season shouldn't have started without fans in first place. If this season is completed and it looks like a big if then all fans of the team that wins the league will forever hear is "you won that league without 5 teams that should have been in it" A title won behind closed doors will follow them because they obviously would want to be there to see their team win something. Besides maybe some Darvel fans, I don't think anyone else will really care that some teams sat out. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaturdaySammy 49 Report post Posted January 15 With no fans and games being played behind closed doors this year, there isn't much 'advantage' to be had for teams playing at home - so I reckon this creates a bit of a leveller for everyone (perhaps teams who play on astro or who have very good playing surfaces being the exception to this). The league winner (if there is one) will not care about the fact teams pulled out - can only beat what's in front of you. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanner 2,606 Report post Posted January 15 6 hours ago, TheAftonBear said: Fitba without fans is nothing. Season shouldn't have started without fans in first place. If this season is completed and it looks like a big if then all fans of the team that wins the league will forever hear is "you won that league without 5 teams that should have been in it" Interestingly it will probably be the same people who talked down the Junior Cup after the teams from the East jumped ship. This season is certainly devalued by the absence of teams but, like the Junior Cup towards the end, it's certainly an enjoyable thing to win but it won't carry the same prestige asva competition with a full compliment. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dylangt7 70 Report post Posted January 15 I would equate it more to like winning the Tennants Sixes or something ... : ) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FairWeatherFan 4,025 Report post Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Shanner said: Interestingly it will probably be the same people who talked down the Junior Cup after the teams from the East jumped ship. This season is certainly devalued by the absence of teams but, like the Junior Cup towards the end, it's certainly an enjoyable thing to win but it won't carry the same prestige asva competition with a full compliment. It will be the same people in one sense. In that the talking down will come from those affiliated with clubs that weren't competing in the competition. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanner 2,606 Report post Posted January 15 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: It will be the same people in one sense. In that the talking down will come from those affiliated with clubs that weren't competing in the competition. I think that anyone capable of objectivity can see why the respective competitions are/were undermined. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FairWeatherFan 4,025 Report post Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Shanner said: I think that anyone capable of objectivity can see why the respective competitions are/were undermined. As long as whoever wins this year's WoS Premier goes onto win promotion, their fanbase aren't going to care. It'll be like Kelty's EoS Premier win. A footnote. Fail to get promoted they've got to hang around for an unknown period of time getting slated by the fans of clubs around them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theesel1994 638 Report post Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Shanner said: I think that anyone capable of objectivity can see why the respective competitions are/were undermined. I think the club and fans will be devastated, if they are licenced, win promotion to the Lowland League and possibly even SPFL within a few years. I'm sure they'll be thinking, "we may well be in League 2 now, but our WoSFL title will forever be tainted because some clubs chose to sit the season out." 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanner 2,606 Report post Posted January 15 47 minutes ago, theesel1994 said: I think the club and fans will be devastated, if they are licenced, win promotion to the Lowland League and possibly even SPFL within a few years. I'm sure they'll be thinking, "we may well be in League 2 now, but our WoSFL title will forever be tainted because some clubs chose to sit the season out." You’re getting emotional about a fairly self evident point. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanner 2,606 Report post Posted January 15 56 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: As long as whoever wins this year's WoS Premier goes onto win promotion, their fanbase aren't going to care. It'll be like Kelty's EoS Premier win. A footnote. Fail to get promoted they've got to hang around for an unknown period of time getting slated by the fans of clubs around them. I don't think it's going to cause anyone anywhere to lose a wink of sleep but it's still a fairly watered down achievement in the grand scheme of things, but aye, there's a lot incentive beyond just winning a title and the chance to escape the division now isn't to be sneezed at. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yogi 65 Report post Posted January 15 Your right we are, and its great to see someone seething about it! Makes it all the better.No seething just pointing it out but most already knew 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy groundhopper 234 Report post Posted January 15 So long as all games are played, BCD or not, then the title has been won fair and square. The PPG nonsense would make titles look a bit cheapened, what is the difference - win the Lge with the likes of Talbot not playing OR win the Lge when the likes of Talbot have a below par season (it may happen). this and next season could be the best chance to progress. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bestsinceslicebread 722 Report post Posted January 15 (edited) On 15/01/2021 at 08:22, SaturdaySammy said: With no fans and games being played behind closed doors this year, there isn't much 'advantage' to be had for teams playing at home - so I reckon this creates a bit of a leveller for everyone (perhaps teams who play on astro or who have very good playing surfaces being the exception to this). The league winner (if there is one) will not care about the fact teams pulled out - can only beat what's in front of you. No advantage as I'd say that nearly every team and all players have been training on Astro for years so doesn't really make that much a difference. Yip Sammy you can only beat what's in front of you. if there is a league winner it will go down in history books that the first winner will be none of the team who withdrew. It's similar to Celtic winning the league without Rangers being there, it will go down in history books that Celtic won the league, only Rangers fan will dispute its eligibility but fact remain they won the league so it will be the same for the winner of the WOFL Edited January 16 by Bestsinceslicebread 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shanner 2,606 Report post Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: No advantage as I'd say that nearly every team and all players have bene training on Astro for years so doesn't really make that much a difference. Yip Sammy you can only beat what's in front of you. if there is a league winner it will go down in history books that the first winner will be none of the team who withdrew. It's similar to Celtic winning the league without Rangers being there, it will go down in history books that Celtic won the league, only Rangers fan will dispute its eligibility but fact remain they won the league so it will be the same for the winner of the WOFL it's not at all similar. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackie Gold 1,251 Report post Posted January 15 2 hours ago, Yogi said: No seething just pointing it out but most already knew So why are you pointing it out when people know, Talbot fans have done something to you and I would like to know what it was? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites