bennett Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Drew Brees said: Does that fanny still think it’s a red card offence?? This guy is supposedly senior management^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, bennett said: Being abusive to deflect away from hypocrisy, we all know what you previously posted. You constantly imply refereeing bias on here, to the point you are wanting retrospective action for a legitimate challenge. I think my comment is apt tbh. I hardly ever claim bias on here so the hypocrisy stuff is bollocks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 It's no surprise Edouard is making thuggish challenges like that. It's in line with his character - remember the time he shot a pedestrian with an air rifle and then drove away? If only he was more like the benevolent Mr. Morelos, who spends his spare time feeding the poor of Cerete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, gannonball said: You constantly imply refereeing bias on here, to the point you are wanting retrospective action for a legitimate challenge. I think my comment is apt tbh. I hardly ever claim bias on here so the hypocrisy stuff is bollocks. The hypocrisy claim is a fair one, anything negative about celtic.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, G51 said: It's no surprise Edouard is making thuggish challenges like that. It's in line with his character - remember the time he shot a pedestrian with an air rifle and then drove away? If only he was more like the benevolent Mr. Morelos, who spends his spare time feeding the poor of Cerete. Hes lethal as always 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bennett said: The hypocrisy claim is a fair one, anything negative about celtic.... Well done Benny, you have caught me out here in that I am bias about Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, G51 said: Morelos, Barisic, Kamara and Kent are the Rangers players you'll make a good fee on in the next two windows, should you want to. Joe Aribo will probably join them in the two windows after that. Rangers and Celtic aren't in terribly different financial positions. Both make losses every year in their everyday operations. Celtic cover that shortfall through player sales, CL groups or burning through the cash they have in the bank. Rangers have covered it through shareholder debt for equity write-offs until now, and the stated aim is to change that and cover them through player sales or CL groups. Now that Celtic have had a season of burning through that cash in the bank (given no player sales or CL groups), that option probably isn't available to them any more. So what happens if Rangers win the league, Celtic flog the players we mentioned above and Rangers sell one of Morelos/Kamara/Barisic/Kent? Assuming neither team makes the CL next year (a fair assumption given how difficult that is), then the potential automatic CL group qualification spot for next years winners becomes huge. Rangers will be going into that with a settled team that's just won a title, and Celtic will be in the midst of a rebuild. Rangers would be favourites to retain the league and with it, automatic CL qualification. That wouldn't just close the financial gap, it would flip it. That's the roadmap for with playingRangers. I think Celtic have started their rebuild with Soro and Turnbull in midfield , and it will continue in the coming transfer window The problem positions are evident so should be sorted by the beginning of next season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Radio clyde claiming that there was no French Edward lounge, Gammonballs kept his superscoreboard job quite.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Brees Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, bennett said: Radio clyde claiming that there was no French Edward lounge, Gammonballs kept his superscoreboard job quite.. It’s called the Kerrydale suite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Drew Brees said: It’s called the Kerrydale suite Ffs, one day I'll figure out how to turn that autocorrect thing off. Have a rare like. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewan14 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, bennett said: Radio clyde claiming that there was no French Edward lounge, Gammonballs kept his superscoreboard job quite.. Quite ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, gannonball said: Some big claims being made on here. Find it strange that a club that has won the last 12 domestic trophy’s going and made millions profit is run badly but a club that has never won a major trophy and surviving off soft loans is. Completely agree mate, I’ve read through some of this and had a bit of laugh at some it. People pointing out how bad our recruitment is or how badly we are run yet as you say we have won 12 trophies on the bounce and kept ourselves in the black. During that time we have sold the likes of Van Dijk, Wanyama, Armstrong, Dembele, Matthews, Hooper and Ki who were all brought in and sold for significant profit and then you have the Tierney transfer to add some sauce and the no doubt profit we will make on the likes of Edouard and Christie. Yes our recruitment has been poor this season but that hasn’t been the case for the vast majority of the 9 in a row run. We have signed some shite but who hasn’t and if you look at net transfer profit we are significantly better off. Its almost as if the barometer of how well Celtic have done is being judged on this seasons performances both on and off the field. Let s be honest this season hasn’t been good enough and I’ve been vocal enough about what I want to see change and Lawell is a part of that due to the contemptuous way he deals with fans and for me his lack of ambition. However if you look at both the balance sheet and the trophies won it has been a relatively well run club. Edited December 31, 2020 by Jinky67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, G51 said: Morelos, Barisic, Kamara and Kent are the Rangers players you'll make a good fee on in the next two windows, should you want to. Joe Aribo will probably join them in the two windows after that. Rangers and Celtic aren't in terribly different financial positions. Both make losses every year in their everyday operations. Celtic cover that shortfall through player sales, CL groups or burning through the cash they have in the bank. Rangers have covered it through shareholder debt for equity write-offs until now, and the stated aim is to change that and cover them through player sales or CL groups. Now that Celtic have had a season of burning through that cash in the bank (given no player sales or CL groups), that option probably isn't available to them any more. So what happens if Rangers win the league, Celtic flog the players we mentioned above and Rangers sell one of Morelos/Kamara/Barisic/Kent? Assuming neither team makes the CL next year (a fair assumption given how difficult that is), then the potential automatic CL group qualification spot for next years winners becomes huge. Rangers will be going into that with a settled team that's just won a title, and Celtic will be in the midst of a rebuild. Rangers would be favourites to retain the league and with it, automatic CL qualification. That wouldn't just close the financial gap, it would flip it. That's the roadmap for Rangers. One of? If to believe what’s being written about the current liabilities it will be more than just one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinky67 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, G51 said: To be clear, Lawwell can run the commercial and business side of a football club no problem at all. There's no doubting that. Desmond instructs him on how to run it and he manages it every year without a problem. He's an accountant and he's good at that. But there's no doubt when it comes to the actual football side of things, such as hiring and firing managers, staff and players, that he really isn't very good at it. The evidence is the track record of signing players since 2016 when John Park left and the managers he's hired (remembering that Rodgers was recruited by Desmond personally). The more he involves himself in this side of things, the worse Celtic do. And right now he's running the whole show. Since 2016 we have signed the likes of Ajer, Christie, Dembele, Edouard, Turnbull are the most notable and those who we will make significant profit of. We also signed Sinclair who was outstanding for us. Bear in mind during JP’s tenure we also signed the likes of Ciftci, Carlton Cole, Guidetti, Kazim-Richards and many many others but everyone just remembers the likes of Van Dijk and Wanyama. JP had some fucking howlers also but isn’t that par for the course at any football club? Edited December 31, 2020 by Jinky67 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Celtic's transfers since 17/18: 17/18: Olivier Ntcham - £4.5m, Charly Musonda - £2.25m (one year loan), Jack Hendry - £1.5m, Jonny Hayes - £1.3m, Marvin Compper - £1m, Lewis Morgan - £300k, Kundai Benyu - free, Patrick Roberts (loan), Odsonne Edouard (loan), Scott Bain (loan) 18/19: Edouard - £9m, Bayo - £2m, Shved -£1.8m, Mulumbu, Manny Perez, Andrew Gutman, Izaguirre, Scott Bain (free), Benkovic, Arzani, Toljan, Weah (loan) 19/20: Jullien - £7.2m, Klimala £3.6m, Bolingoli £3m, Taylor £3m, Soro £2m, Elhamed £1.6m, Luca Connell £400k, Frimpong £350k, Afolabi (free), Forster, Bauer, Elyounoussi (loan) 20/21: Ajeti - £5m, Barkas - £4.5m, Turnbull - £3.5m, Duffy - £2m (one year loan), Laxalt (loan) £60m since 2017. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 hours ago, gannonball said: It wasn’t really for me. We were terrible but still got done by 2 set pieces and Rangers* never got out of second gear I thought, we were absolutely there for for the taking in terms of a rout. A controlled performance but not a ruthless one like the 5-1’s we were dishing out. As for this game I don't have high hopes for us but if Eddie and Griff start they will cause any team in Scotland huge problems. Its a shame Julien is out now though as he often turns in decent performances in big games. If we lose thats the league fucked for me tbh. Sound like a late 50s folk duo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 20 hours ago, Munoz said: Have you given up on Dundee? 8 hours ago, Sortmeout said: Wouldn’t you? 12 hours? Shameful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: One of? If to believe what’s being written about the current liabilities it will be more than just one The shareholders have already committed to underwriting the liabilities incurred until the end of next season. Those are not an issue. 3 minutes ago, Jinky67 said: Since 2016 we have signed the likes of Ajer, Christie, Dembele, Edouard, Turnbull are the most notable and those who we will make significant profit of. We also signed Sinclair who was outstanding for us. Bear in mind during JP’s tenure we also signed the likes of Ciftci, Carlton Cole, Guidetti, Kazim-Richards and many many others but everyone just remembers the likes of Van Dijk and Wanyama. JP had some fucking howlers also but isn’t that par for the course at any football club? Three of those were signed when Park was still at the club, he left in October 2016. You'll make money on Edouard but you paid £9m for him and everyone seems to think that PSG have a sell-on. With 18 months left on his deal you're not going to make an enormous profit on him. Turnbull might turn out good, and you might make a big profit on him. But he's only played 550 minutes for Celtic this season, most of them in dead rubbers and against the bottom six. So let's pump the brakes on that one, for now at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, G51 said: Celtic's transfers since 17/18: 17/18: Olivier Ntcham - £4.5m, Charly Musonda - £2.25m (one year loan), Jack Hendry - £1.5m, Jonny Hayes - £1.3m, Marvin Compper - £1m, Lewis Morgan - £300k, Kundai Benyu - free, Patrick Roberts (loan), Odsonne Edouard (loan), Scott Bain (loan) 18/19: Edouard - £9m, Bayo - £2m, Shved -£1.8m, Mulumbu, Manny Perez, Andrew Gutman, Izaguirre, Scott Bain (free), Benkovic, Arzani, Toljan, Weah (loan) 19/20: Jullien - £7.2m, Klimala £3.6m, Bolingoli £3m, Taylor £3m, Soro £2m, Elhamed £1.6m, Luca Connell £400k, Frimpong £350k, Afolabi (free), Forster, Bauer, Elyounoussi (loan) 20/21: Ajeti - £5m, Barkas - £4.5m, Turnbull - £3.5m, Duffy - £2m (one year loan), Laxalt (loan) £60m since 2017. Stopped reading after the 2nd player. 2.25 million for a loan deal for an unproven youngster for less than 6 months? No danger Lawwell would agree to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, gannonball said: Stopped reading after the 2nd player. 2.25 million for a loan deal for an unproven youngster for less than 6 months? No danger Lawwell would agree to that. From Transfermarkt, but appears to be backed up. Sourced from a Belgian newspaper: https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2018/1/30/16949434/chelsea-charly-musonda-celtic-loan-move-financial-details-loan-fee-wages You actually agreed to pay €6m over 18 months. Because it was cut short after 6 months, you paid a third of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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