roman_bairn 2,521 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 I want the current managers gone because I think they are thick. I was told by a famous and successful football manager, selecting a manager is easy. If you can see them managing in a business other than football, they should be employed. Can you see a Herbal life pyramid merchant and a guy with sleeve tattoos in a 50k a year jobs outside football? I can’t you could see Jim Jefferies, Peter Houston or Alex Totten managing a haulage firm or something like that - these two not a chance .Sometimes this forum reaches new levels of bizarreness.... 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewBornBairn 11,743 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: I want the current managers gone because I think they are thick. I was told by a famous and successful football manager, selecting a manager is easy. If you can see them managing in a business other than football, they should be employed. Can you see a Herbal life pyramid merchant and a guy with sleeve tattoos in a 50k a year jobs outside football? I can’t you could see Jim Jefferies, Peter Houston or Alex Totten managing a haulage firm or something like that - these two not a chance . Some folk aren't qualified to post on a football forum. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Believe The Hype 3,223 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: I want the current managers gone because I think they are thick. I was told by a famous and successful football manager, selecting a manager is easy. If you can see them managing in a business other than football, they should be employed. Can you see a Herbal life pyramid merchant and a guy with sleeve tattoos in a 50k a year jobs outside football? I can’t you could see Jim Jefferies, Peter Houston or Alex Totten managing a haulage firm or something like that - these two not a chance . 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigkillie 13,716 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: It is a bit random, but I was thinking of a managerial position where you wouldn’t need professional qualifications or a degree. You couldn’t see Jack Ross in a decent job outside of football? Football managers do need professional qualifications to get anywhere. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Duck 1,058 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 I worry about some people on this forum being allowed to vote. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nedelko 118 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 Could imagine Ray McKinnon on 50k a year in an accounting gig no problem... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
badgerthewitness 2,513 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 Your uncle on Facebook, with his haulage firm theory, needs to consider that time a guy with a forklift company ran the club... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Proudtobeabairn 118 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 I think when you're finding time to criticise a management team who have been in the job a year and lost 1 (?) league game because you couldn't see them running a haulage firm it's time to give up on football (or the booze). 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grangemouth Bairn 3,577 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: I want the current managers gone because I think they are thick. I was told by a famous and successful football manager, selecting a manager is easy. If you can see them managing in a business other than football, they should be employed. Can you see a Herbal life pyramid merchant and a guy with sleeve tattoos in a 50k a year jobs outside football? I can’t you could see Jim Jefferies, Peter Houston or Alex Totten managing a haulage firm or something like that - these two not a chance . Jack Dorsey has a tattoo the length of his arm and it’s not held him back chief. Its not the 1980’s anymore. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrDust 1,432 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, MSG GTF! said: You’ve got your opinion and I’ve got mine. I know what I was watching and he downed tools. The heartless defeats at East End Park (where he got himself sent off 15mins after coming onto the park) and Tannadice stick in my mind. Plenty of other appearances where his lack of effort for a Club so “close to his heart” was blatant. He was given a chance by Falkirk to start a career in management that no other club would’ve offered him. He was never going to turn that opportunity down in favour of a season warming the Livingston bench. If he and McCracken knuckle down and achieve what is expected of them this season then that’s all that matters, but count me out of all the hero worshiping p!sh that massages his ego over on social media. As you say you have your opinion....generally doom n gloom and using out of date sweetex to sugar it occasionally. The down tools was the opinion of Hartley and helped him move players he didn't want and sheep bought into it. I could be critical of two players who left in that period but that wasn't for downing tools, they didn't have the heart for it in the first place. Miller had been coaching for a good few years now and probably would've got a coaching gig somewhere, but to rip up a contract at Livvy for a gig that could've lasted days or weeks and hampered his chance of future management jobs if it went tits up, really tells you all you need to know. McCracken had the safety net of Peterhead to go back to tho. I don't think we are hero worshipping anyone, it's all the very same for any manager for fans being fickle even when it's going well. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NavyBlueArmy1876 1,545 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadwell Dog 3,464 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 8 hours ago, Andreas Kelevra said: It is a bit random, but I was thinking of a managerial position where you wouldn’t need professional qualifications or a degree. You couldn’t see Jack Ross in a decent job outside of football? How many exe company managers and execs have we had on our bod and none of them could run a bath. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bantabairn 824 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: How many exe company managers and execs have we had on our bod and none of them could run a bath. No argument there, and for me and contrary to some on here, the changes within the BOD, coupled with the new investment with the Rawlins should give us a far more structured direction. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSG GTF! 3 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 6 hours ago, MrDust said: As you say you have your opinion....generally doom n gloom and using out of date sweetex to sugar it occasionally. The down tools was the opinion of Hartley and helped him move players he didn't want and sheep bought into it. I could be critical of two players who left in that period but that wasn't for downing tools, they didn't have the heart for it in the first place. Miller had been coaching for a good few years now and probably would've got a coaching gig somewhere, but to rip up a contract at Livvy for a gig that could've lasted days or weeks and hampered his chance of future management jobs if it went tits up, really tells you all you need to know. McCracken had the safety net of Peterhead to go back to tho. I don't think we are hero worshipping anyone, it's all the very same for any manager for fans being fickle even when it's going well. Apologies for being so doom and gloom. I must’ve missed the part where being a Falkirk fan has been so enjoyable lately. All the sweetex in the world couldn’t sugar coat the p!sh we’ve had to endure over the past few years. I can assure you my mind (and that of others) was firmly made up well before Hartley came in. His actions just reaffirmed our opinions. I don’t think Miller was alone in chucking it, but whether I call it downing tools, or you call it not having the heart, or someone else calls it being unable to lift themselves, it’s all one and the same. Unfortunately the only ones who really suffered was the fans. -1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkirk Wull 18 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 Bantabairn , talking about investment from Rawlins , anybody know what exactly happening with them. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bantabairn 824 Report post Posted December 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fawkirk Wull said: Bantabairn , talking about investment from Rawlins , anybody know what exactly happening with them. Coming together nicely 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites