Celtic's Next Permanent Manager

[G51]

2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said:

After Brendan Rodgers left I am sure there were plenty of competent managers who would have been happy to come to Celtic even if just to emulate Rodgers in using Celtic as a stepping stone

However our board haven’t behaved in appropriate manner with regards how Lennon was appointed so we will never know.

So I suppose the question becomes why would it be different this time?

[DMCs]

2 hours ago, craigkillie said:

If he was able to ragdoll Rangers on a regular basis with Killie, then what makes you think he wouldn't be able to do the same with about 50 times the budget at Celtic?

Because his style of play isn't suitable for a side challenging for titles. Much better suited being the underdog.

No doubt a good manager who I hope stays at Scotland for longer but he isn't what they need.

Edited February 24, 2021 by DMCs

[Ranaldo Bairn]

Didn't Deila take a wee team from nowhere and finish above Rosenborg and many other more established names?

Bizarre choice of hill to die on, randomly attacking the standard of Norwegian football in an attempt to decry him, but there you go.

[G51]

3 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said:

Didn't Deila take a wee team from nowhere and finish above Rosenborg and many other more established names?

Bizarre choice of hill to die on, randomly attacking the standard of Norwegian football in an attempt to decry him, but there you go.

The point is that winning a jobber league with a jobber team doesn't make you an experienced, tried and tested candidate for the Celtic job.

As Celtic found out.

[Jinky67]

7 minutes ago, G51 said:

So I suppose the question becomes why would it be different this time?

The job is a lot more difficult. A manager isn’t inheriting a team at the top of their game, recruitment since Rodgers has left has been poor and we have players who have reached the end of their road. We can agree a significant rebuild is required

However Rodgers used Celtic to re-establish himself there may others out there willing to do the same such as Eddie Howe or a Villas Boas who is more of a long shot. I’d love to see a Benitez however I think that’s beyond us however I do think it will be someone currently without a club, someone experienced and with some degree of pedigree.

The narrative around Lampard v Gerrard terrifies me so I hope we stay well clear

Edited February 24, 2021 by Jinky67

[Dons_1988]

3 minutes ago, G51 said:

The point is that winning a jobber league with a jobber team doesn't make you an experienced, tried and tested candidate for the Celtic job.

So we can rule out Gerrard then.

[Jacksgranda]

2 minutes ago, G51 said:

The point is that winning a jobber league with a jobber team doesn't make you an experienced, tried and tested candidate for the Celtic job.

As Celtic found out.

Why, what did Celtic not win that they would have won had someone "better" than Delia been in charge?

[Ranaldo Bairn]

He may have won a jobber league but his achievements there were notable.

He was worth a pop. It might not have worked out but I can see what they were trying. It was a time when there was no top flight Rangers too, so lower risk.

[Tartan Tammy 1297]

2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said:

The job is a lot more difficult. A manager isn’t inheriting a team at the top of their game, recruitment since Rodgers has left has been poor and we have players who have reached the end of their road. We can agree a significant rebuild is required

However Rodgers used Celtic to re-establish himself there may others out there willing to do the same such as Eddie Howe or a Villas Boas who is more of a long shot. I’d love to see a Benitez however I think that’s beyond us however I do think it will be someone currently without a club

Eddie Howe will be the next Newcastle boss

[G51]

1 minute ago, Jinky67 said:

The job is a lot more difficult. A manager isn’t inheriting a team at the top of their game, recruitment since Rodgers has left has been poor and we have players who have reached the end of their road. We can agree a significant rebuild is required

However Rodgers used Celtic to re-establish himself there may others out there willing to do the same such as Eddie Howe or a Villas Boas who is more of a long shot. I’d love to see a Benitez however I think that’s beyond us however I do think it will be someone currently without a club

So if the job is a lot more difficult this time, doesn't that also mean that the risk of not emulating Rodgers, and tanking your career completely by failing, is also much higher? Rodgers started from a position of strength, the new manager will be coming from behind.

The last time Celtic needed a rebuild, they gave the job to Lennon because he had an impressive string of results as an interim.

Celtic could absolutely go on a thoroughly professional search for a new manager. They also might just chuck it at the guy who's currently there if he wins 6/7 of the last 8 games.

 

[tarapoa]

[G51]

4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Why, what did Celtic not win that they would have won had someone "better" than Delia been in charge?

Some more games of football, presumably.

[Jinky67]

8 minutes ago, G51 said:

The point is that winning a jobber league with a jobber team doesn't make you an experienced, tried and tested candidate for the Celtic job.

As Celtic found out.

What did we find out exactly? He won 50% of the trophies available to him domestically over 2 seasons. That currently makes him 3 times more successful than Gerrard 

[DrewDon]

An impeccable source has just told me that it's John Terry as manager with Harry Redknapp as Director of Football. 

[true fan]

would steve clarke move? popular choice? -  be good i recon

would keane be willing? popular choice? - great player but not really got good track record as manager i recon

 

[Tartan Tammy 1297]

1 minute ago, true fan said:

would steve clarke move? popular choice? -  be good i recon

would keane be willing? popular choice? - great player but not really got good track record as manager i recon

 

I think he would but he doesn't play the Celtic way

What ever that is not sure if its attacking football or just playing good attractive football and winning 

 

I am sure the Celtic fans will be able to enlighten me what that is?

[G51]

2 minutes ago, Jinky67 said:

What did we find out exactly? He won 50% of the trophies available to him domestically over 2 seasons. That currently makes him 3 times more successful than Gerrard 

so how come celtic got shot of him then

[ahemps]

18 minutes ago, G51 said:

Correction, in Europe.

Norway has all those advantages as well, and they've cracked the top 20 in the co-efficient once or twice since they fell out of it in 08/09.

Not sure why people are determined to say that the Eliteserien is good. It's full of shite.

 

I didn't say it was good, I never even mentioned Norway. I think Scottish football is better than Norwegian (although they have produced players like Haaland and Odegaard recently) 

I just think our position is artificially high (although there on merit) at this time even though I think we may still yet get to 10th but in a few years we will be back around 15th, where as the nations you mentioned, Austria, Belgium and Ukraine will still be around where they are now.

[Jacksgranda]

7 minutes ago, G51 said:

So if the job is a lot more difficult this time, doesn't that also mean that the risk of not emulating Rodgers, and tanking your career completely by failing, is also much higher? Rodgers started from a position of strength, the new manager will be coming from behind.

The last time Celtic needed a rebuild, they gave the job to Lennon because he had an impressive string of results as an interim.

Celtic could absolutely go on a thoroughly professional search for a new manager. They also might just chuck it at the guy who's currently there if he wins 6/7 of the last 8 games.

 

5 minutes ago, G51 said:

Some more games of football, presumably.

[tarapoa]

13 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Why, what did Celtic not win that they would have won had someone "better" than Delia been in charge?

If Liverpool hadn't recalled Danny Ward at the eleventh hour (due to their reserve keeper's shocker in an FA Cup tie at Exeter), I think the Dons could have won the league that season. We won both home fixtures against Delia's team, which is always a good start.

As it was, we made do with a goalkeeper from Feb onwards called Scott Brown, who specialised in throwing the ball into his own net.  Rooney getting injured didn't help either, but it was Klopp taking Ward back that really f**ked us over.

Celtic didn't clinch the league until into May that season - which is probably still closer than any league for over a decade.

Dons actually had a better team the following season - but by then we were up against peak Rodgers and were treble runners-up.........but much further behind in the league.

Edited February 24, 2021 by tarapoa