Dundee's Next Permanent Manager

[Ivo den Bieman]

Here you are lads, the mural with the man himself.

He was terrific at Mansfield, Plymouth and Torquay. I remember he took on a Plymouth side that had made the FA Cup semi finals in 84 and took them up a division. He did well at Torquay too who were always a penniless shambles in those days.

Never sure what happened at Dens. Even as a kid, before the internet, I knew through fanzines etc that Dundee fans hated him and regarded him as a cretinous galoot. 

Until this thread I had no idea he was from the city though. I had always thought he was a good lower league English manager who came briefly to Scotland, didn’t really understand the league, failed horribly and vanished never to be seen again.

Edited November 27, 2020 by Ivo den Bieman

[Mvondo_the_great]

Spoke to my source close to the club - the one who broke the adam deal structure week or two before anyone knew.

 

Due to the pandemic, this season mcpake is safe unless you get into any relegation fight of course. Next season they will demand a mid table finish from him and every year after they expect "improvement." Not sure if thats league placings or performances but thats all thats been said to me. By 2025 they must be in the race for the championship every year for mcpake to stay in the job.

 

I would laugh but it is a hard league to get out of as seen by uniteds recent troubles.

 

Edited November 27, 2020 by Mvondo_the_great

[Derry Alli]

3am on a Friday morning and you're "speaking to your source" about Dundee FC. You're some boy, Mvondo.

[locheedee]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said:

3am on a Friday morning and you're "speaking to your source" about Dundee FC. You're some boy, Mvondo

 

[This Charming Man]

11 hours ago, ewan14 said:

Is that him ?

Yeah, that was Jim McLean whilst as a player at Dens. He left to play for Killie before returning 2 years later as a coach in 1970. Spent 18 months as 1st team coach before leaving for Tannadice.

So highly rated by the Dundee players that 2 years later at the evening reception after winning the League Cup against Celtic half the team left the hotel to visit him at his house apparently. Did not go down well. 

[Ludo*1]

3 hours ago, This Charming Man said:

Yeah, that was Jim McLean whilst as a player at Dens. He left to play for Killie before returning 2 years later as a coach in 1970. Spent 18 months as 1st team coach before leaving for Tannadice.

So highly rated by the Dundee players that 2 years later at the evening reception after winning the League Cup against Celtic half the team left the hotel to visit him at his house apparently. Did not go down well. 

Wasn't alive then, but Jocky often recounts how Dave White basically ensured that every player that visited Jim McLean was punted for that.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Just googled him and he seems to have been successful down South to the point that Plymouth have murals of him at their ground. Jeezo.

He also managed Southend United for 7 years - my English team - he actually did okay there. Took them up in his second season - relegated after two seasons up - but bounced straight back up - breaking 9 club records in the process.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Spoke to my source close to the club - the one who broke the adam deal structure week or two before anyone knew.
 
Due to the pandemic, this season mcpake is safe unless you get into any relegation fight of course. Next season they will demand a mid table finish from him and every year after they expect "improvement." Not sure if thats league placings or performances but thats all thats been said to me. By 2025 they must be in the race for the championship every year for mcpake to stay in the job.
 
I would laugh but it is a hard league to get out of as seen by uniteds recent troubles.
 

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Wasn't alive then, but Jocky often recounts how Dave White basically ensured that every player that visited Jim McLean was punted for that.

That's peak Dundee tbh. Not only let a brilliant coach go but also bin several excellent players for going to see him after a cup win.

[ewan14]

9 hours ago, This Charming Man said:

Yeah, that was Jim McLean whilst as a player at Dens. He left to play for Killie before returning 2 years later as a coach in 1970. Spent 18 months as 1st team coach before leaving for Tannadice.

So highly rated by the Dundee players that 2 years later at the evening reception after winning the League Cup against Celtic half the team left the hotel to visit him at his house apparently. Did not go down well. 

Cheers

Great story

[RossBFaeDundee]

[Frank conner]

On 27/11/2020 at 17:33, Day of the Lords said:

On 27/11/2020 at 14:09, Ludo*1 said:

Wasn't alive then, but Jocky often recounts how Dave White basically ensured that every player that visited Jim McLean was punted for that.

That's peak Dundee tbh. Not only let a brilliant coach go but also bin several excellent players for going to see him after a cup win.

Who's going to touch Dundee? Get real son.

[This Charming Man]

         Are you really telling me James McPake is still your manager???????

[Mvondo_the_great]

Safe unless in the relegation zone for Mcpake

Edited March 1, 2021 by Mvondo_the_great