WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, scottmcleanscontacts said: Death itself is no punishment for people who commit crimes of this horrible nature. I don't really know what the answer is but I'd edge on the idea that they should never have another easy day for the rest of their lives. Quite how that would manifest I'm not sure but it should be an inch away from torture. As a worker in the CJ system for decades, you always have to hold out for the remote possibility of rehabilitating even the worst offenders. Experience has taught me that there are a minority who will never change. This leaves two options, either of which works for me: 1. They are treated as pariahs by their fellow inmates, most of whom do adhere to a moral code which, while not compatible with wider society, is more rigid and carries more severe sanctions, some of which may well result in serious injury or death. 2. They actually come to understand the enormity of their actions and, finally feeling guilty, pass their own personal death sentence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, coprolite said: In third place, a good flaying like they used to do for the heretics. In second place, unarmed combat with wild beasts, like they used to do for the Christians. But the best capital punishment is the one out of Shaka Zulu where they shove a sharpened log up the offenders bottom, turn it vertical and watch them slide down. The Americans are really a bunch of pussies with this medicine shite. Our tactic of inadequate protection among the prison population works a treat for us. No appeals for Fred West. Anyway. Not in favour, it's barbaric. Fred topped himself, joining Harold Shipman in the Gareth Gates Club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 I don't usually have much sympathy for murderers and my objection to the death sentence isn't because it's likely to be unfair to them, although it may well be, especially when they have the wrong man/woman. It's mainly about a clerk/politician/judge, or even a jury, having the right to say whether someone safely locked up in a cell should live or die with a tick of a pen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: Fred topped himself, joining Harold Shipman in the Gareth Gates Club. Did he now? I thought i remembered something about him getting sodomised with a mop but i guess that must have been non-fatal, possibly even a leisure activity. I'm baffled by the connection to a low quality pop star though. What's that about? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, coprolite said: Did he now? I thought i remembered something about him getting sodomised with a mop but i guess that must have been non-fatal, possibly even a leisure activity. I'm baffled by the connection to a low quality pop star though. What's that about? I know I'll get pelters for this but... Spoiler They struggled to finish a sentence That'll be Prison Humour for you.. ETA: I've seen loads of things inserted in offenders, from bog brushes to newspapers (rolled up, obviously) to, yes, mop handles. Edited November 20, 2020 by WhiteRoseKillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 100% against. It's easy to read an article in the moment and say "well i'd make an exception here....". But if you read every news article about the crimes of everybody put on death row, then you'd want to make that same exception for all of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Nah, no point in the death penalty IMO. I think there was a study in America done where they concluded it costs a state more to execute someone, than to keep them in jail the rest of their days. Something to do with appeals and court cases and the like. Plus, it doesn't bring anyone back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: I know I'll get pelters for this but... Hide contents They struggled to finish a sentence That'll be Prison Humour for you.. ETA: I've seen loads of things inserted in offenders, from bog brushes to newspapers (rolled up, obviously) to, yes, mop handles. I had to ask 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) said: 100% against. It's easy to read an article in the moment and say "well i'd make an exception here....". But if you read every news article about the crimes of everybody put on death row, then you'd want to make that same exception for all of them. Absolutely - I honestly believe Mr and mrs Average have very little appreciation of how depraved some criminals are. I've lost count at the number of times I've had "civvies" talk about Ian Huntley as if he was the worst of the worst. Mrs WRK got upset at me when I reacted once, "for a start, they weren't his own kids", but there are so, so many monsters in our Prisons - the majority of whose cases get processed without wall-wall coverage on Sky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, coprolite said: I had to ask I'm glad it was you, rather than I. I even googled Gareth Gates and still didn't "get it". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Killing someone for an abhorrent crime lets the guilty party off, lock them up for life, every day they have to face the fact that they have no hope, it’ll never get better, it’ll never change. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Wilkos Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I am totally opposed to the death penalty in 100% of cases, apart from people who dawdle in supermarkets. Kill them all now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said: I am totally opposed to the death penalty in 100% of cases, apart from people who dawdle in supermarkets. Kill them all now. I'm cool with dawdling but any c**t who doesn't put the wee divider thing on the checkout conveyer belt after they've emptied their trolley deserves the most painful and humiliating execution imaginable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Steve_Wilkos said: I am totally opposed to the death penalty in 100% of cases, apart from people who dawdle in supermarkets. Kill them all now. Farewell @pozbaird and mrs pozbaird... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 If there was any useful, logical, verified research that suggested the death penalty was an effective deterrent then I'd be all for it. There isn't and therefore I am not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Gaz said: Never-ending repeats of Mrs Brown's Boys IMO Really getting to witness a previously unseen dark side to Gaz here; what a sadistic b*****d. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, CountyFan said: If there was any useful, logical, verified research that suggested the death penalty was an effective deterrent then I'd be all for it. There isn't and therefore I am not. An easy way out for offenders as well IMO. Given the choice of the rest of my life behind bars or the death penalty, I reckon I'd choose the death penalty every time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I wouldn't have been adverse to witnessing the death of Tony Blair by execution for war crimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: I thought this was going to be about Dougie Gair's at the death penalty that relegated The 'Shire. Anyway, no to the Death Penalty under any circumstances. A greenie for mentioning Sir Douglas and for opposing the Death penalty. I hope you haven't woken @MAC THE KNIFE from his sleep... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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