LongTimeLurker Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Pfizer vaccine approved just in time for lifting the lockdown in England (quelle surprise!): https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55145696 Now all we need is the Oxford AstraZeneca one to also get the nod (highly probable in the UK but they messed up their initial Phase 3 trial so it is controversial internationally) and we will be on a reasonably rapid trajectory towards Levels 1 & 0. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hopefully the vaccines will be distributed among the most needed and then some of the UK population into 2021, being positive maybe fans could get to see the end of the season - that would be great. Let's hope the governments can organise this successfully 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) Apparently, due to the well documented limitations of the Pfizer vaccine the first to receive it will constrained by their ability to get to the vaccination centres (which are located in main population centres). This seems likely to rule out the vast majority of the most vulnerable people and may mean that it is directed at those such as Care Home and NHS staff. Still, hopefully the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine will receive its' OK very soon so that a real roll-out can start which can be taken to the most at risk/vulnerable people. Edited December 12, 2020 by Dev . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 20/11/2020 at 19:30, HibeeJibee said: Clubs have until Friday 11th December to withdraw. Any club who withdraws will be relegated. Clubs who withdraw using this mechanism won't be sanctioned (e.g. no multiple demotions, financial penalty, or points deduction next season). If any club withdraw their results will be expunged. There are some technical fixes on null & void/PPG threshold and not withdrawing just before an upcoming game. So if club from Premier Division withdraw they drop into First Division/if club from First Division withdraw they drop into Second Division. No demotion to Second Division/or any theoretical division under it, respectively. Amount of relegation places reduce corresponding to any withdrawals; in an unlikely event more Premier Division clubs withdraw than are relegation places, additional clubs will be promoted from the First Division. Clubs must withdraw immediately on intimating such i.e. cannot announce "we will withdraw in 3 weeks" and play literally pointless games. Well yesterday was the deadline. No club has announced a withdrawal, and a full card was listed today (except Dunbar and Edinburgh South as odd teams). Full steam ahead aboard the good ship 'East of Scotland', then, it would appear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted December 20, 2020 Author Share Posted December 20, 2020 Well yesterday was the deadline. No club has announced a withdrawal, and a full card was listed today (except Dunbar and Edinburgh South as odd teams). Full steam ahead aboard the good ship 'East of Scotland', then, it would appear. Berwick kicked out from Saturday once the border is shut...!!!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Auld Heid said: Berwick kicked out from Saturday once the border is shut...!!!! Berwick are in the Lowland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton233 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 How does new restrictions starting from Boxing Day affect the east of Scotland league, still planned to continue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I guess they will continue as long as professional football continues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton233 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Cool, that’s a positive. Slightly surprised as a lot of these lads will be working from home or furloughed but are free to go their footie. Very strange times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 58 minutes ago, Newton233 said: Cool, that’s a positive. Slightly surprised as a lot of these lads will be working from home or furloughed but are free to go their footie. Very strange times. I'm not sure this is what the government had in mind when they said professional football can continue, I imagine they were thinking of full time or SPFL at most, but of course semi-professional is still professional and for some players at some clubs the money is meaningful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, GordonS said: I'm not sure this is what the government had in mind when they said professional football can continue, I imagine they were thinking of full time or SPFL at most, but of course semi-professional is still professional and for some players at some clubs the money is meaningful. The Development league were going to start feeling that the exemption covered them as well. Only for the SFA to step in and tell them to stop. Essentially saying they've already pushed their luck with getting the SG to accept all the leagues that were covered by the Professional Sport status. The SG could have stopped football at this level if they wanted to at the time and can't really claim ignorance if the SFA had to argue for the lower leagues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 The Development league were going to start feeling that the exemption covered them as well. Only for the SFA to step in and tell them to stop. Essentially saying they've already pushed their luck with getting the SG to accept all the leagues that were covered by the Professional Sport status. The SG could have stopped football at this level if they wanted to at the time and can't really claim ignorance if the SFA had to argue for the lower leagues. All the good intentions of going ahead at this level haven't come to fruition.Instead of getting supporters back to games and valuable income back to clubs - we have seen the pandemic get worse.The most recent announcement that the virus transmission is getting easier - has to cause concern for players safety.We have been lucky so far that no team has been hit by an outbreak and hopefully that continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) Meanwhile we await the MHRA approval of the OxfordAZ vaccine (Daily Telegraph has reported Dec 28th as the probable date) and the possibility it opens up of getting all high risk people vaccinated within a timescale of weeks. Edited December 23, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Meanwhile we await the MHRA approval of the OxfordAZ vaccine (Daily Telegraph has reported Dec 28th as the probable date) and the possibility it opens up of getting all high risk people vaccinated within a timescale of weeks. A vaccination program that requires 2 jabs a month apart. Won't impact this season. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 It starts working after the first one. The second one is only a booster to make it work even better. Tory Blur has been quite vocal on this topic today: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 My understanding is that it isn't known if the Oxford-Astrazeneca vaccine would also reduce the transfer of the virus from those who have received two jabs, let alone, one. It would give 90% protection odds after two jabs to to individuals who have received both jabs but the % protection after one jab is closer to 50% - which could help but isn't the answer really. Jabs will be given as quickly as possible and this will take time. The football season can be extended as anyone who follows football knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Auld Heid said: All the good intentions of going ahead at this level haven't come to fruition. Instead of getting supporters back to games and valuable income back to clubs - we have seen the pandemic get worse. The most recent announcement that the virus transmission is getting easier - has to cause concern for players safety. We have been lucky so far that no team has been hit by an outbreak and hopefully that continues. Getting worse yet falkirk is lowest number of cases than ever. Season over camelon win the league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 It's not so much transmission of the vaccine that's the key on being able to normalise society, although there is evidence that the OxfordAZ vaccine helps in that regard. Nobody in the OxfordAZ study who got the vaccine rather than the placebo developed symptoms severe enough to require hospitalisation. If it prevents severe symptoms job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 11 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: It starts working after the first one. The second one is only a booster to make it work even better. Tory Blur has been quite vocal on this topic today: I didn't know Blair was an epidemiologist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Probably just saw an opportunity to remind people he is stiil alive. MHRA now have all the data they requested from OxfordAZ, so looking good for approval by Monday. If that happens the rate of vaccination will ramp up considerably. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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