BFTD Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, itzdrk said: While Trump going is a good thing, more importantly it looks like QAnon is dead too which IMO was much more dangerous. Just how batshit is that statement. Not saying you're wrong, but just think for a second about how insane America has become that an ARG based around paedovampires is believed to be at least partially true by half of the populace. This is the perfect opportunity for role-playing games like Vampire the Masquerade to make bank, so long as they pretend it's all real, nudge nudge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Moving on to a "new project". How exactly do you top a secret cabal of satan worshipping, paedophilic, cannibalistic celebrities that rule the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Fullerene said: I would like to agree but there a bunch of people who liked seeing Margaret Thatcher or Theresa May (or the Queen) going to church and think that is what a leader should do. Even people who don't go to church themselves. When Neil Kinnock and Ed Milband declared themselves atheist- that was seen as a step too far. Bizarrely Norman Tebbit can also declare himself an atheist but for some reason that goes not get challenged. Don't know why. Maybe because he is a Tory. Who knows. If Norman Tebbit had declared himself to follow any religion that involved traditional moral teachings, literally nobody would have believed him. I know I've been mocking idiots who believe in supernatural beings that drain the life force from the children they violate, but if someone said they had proof that Tebbit drank the blood of children? I'd want to see proof, but it wouldn't surprise me if they could produce it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, itzdrk said: While Trump going is a good thing, more importantly it looks like QAnon is dead too which IMO was much more dangerous. Thread: Love that "nothing makes sense" - unless of course you consider for just a brief second that rather than a global cabal of paedo elites, big tech, big pharma, all world leaders, scientists, doctors, nurses, Mexicans, BLM, antifa, moderate GOP members, 99.9% of the media, judges he literally hand picked himself, the PGA and essentially everyone with a pulse isn't conspiring against him, but that Trump told a lot of lies, played you like a harmonica, and you believed him. Edited January 20, 2021 by madwullie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Fullerene said: When Neil Kinnock and Ed Milband declared themselves atheist- that was seen as a step too far Did it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 7 hours ago, NotThePars said: Did it? As somebody who is not religious I would prefer leaders who did not bother with it either. However there are people who like to see their leaders going to church, they like the "swearing on the bible" stuff and all the other symbolism. They prefer leaders who pay lip service to religion. Maybe these people never vote Labour but I suspect some of them do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Fullerene said: As somebody who is not religious I would prefer leaders who did not bother with it either. However there are people who like to see their leaders going to church, they like the "swearing on the bible" stuff and all the other symbolism. They prefer leaders who pay lip service to religion. Maybe these people never vote Labour but I suspect some of them do. How big numbers are we talking? I'm not denying that some people might've seen Miliband being an atheist as the straw that broke the camel's back but I'd be interested to see how substantial it was and whether anyone should therefore care. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, NotThePars said: How big numbers are we talking? I'm not denying that some people might've seen Miliband being an atheist as the straw that broke the camel's back but I'd be interested to see how substantial it was and whether anyone should therefore care. Yes it would be nice know the actual numbers. There is no doubt that in America you have to at least pretend to be religious to get anywhere in Politics. I simply despair if that is in any true over here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Yes it would be nice know the actual numbers. There is no doubt that in America you have to at least pretend to be religious to get anywhere in Politics. I simply despair if that is in any true over here. There is a US poll, probably about 20 years old now, that asked what would stop a voter voting fora candidate. I can’t remember the exact figures but it was something like, 2% would never vote for a woman, 10% would never vote for a black person, 15% would never vote for a Jew, 20% would never vote for a gay person, and 50% would never vote for an atheist. Frightening in an educated, (supposedly) liberal democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There is a US poll, probably about 20 years old now, that asked what would stop a voter voting fora candidate. I can’t remember the exact figures but it was something like, 2% would never vote for a woman, 10% would never vote for a black person, 15% would never vote for a Jew, 20% would never vote for a gay person, and 50% would never vote for an atheist. Frightening in an educated, (supposedly) liberal democracy. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/shortcuts/2017/aug/08/in-god-we-trust-why-americans-wont-vote-in-an-atheist-president 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 15 hours ago, itzdrk said: While Trump going is a good thing, more importantly it looks like QAnon is dead too which IMO was much more dangerous. Thread: You've got to hope that Q is forced to step up to admit that it was all just a wee joke that got out of hand. It's supposed to some pig farmer who made a shed load of cash from porn sites and moved to the Philippines. https://themilsource.com/2020/09/01/could-q-really-be-a-pig-farmer-named-jim-watkins/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Tony Ferrino said: They know that no atheist would ever use a nuclear bomb. Stalin, Kim Jong-un and Pol Pot were far too ethical for that sort of thing. Chinese government would never consider it either. 14 hours ago, BFTD said: If Norman Tebbit had declared himself to follow any religion that involved traditional moral teachings, literally nobody would have believed him. Remember Margaret Thatcher saying that the parable of the Good Samaritan was an argument in favour of capitalism? She said he had to be rich to be in a position to help. The Church of England has been described as the Conservative Party at prayer, though that seems harsh. One of the milestones in the Conservative decline in Scotland was the Sermon on the Mound, when Thatcher lectured the General Assembly on Christianity. It went down like a lead balloon and put a major rift between her and middle class Scotland of the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: There is a US poll, probably about 20 years old now, that asked what would stop a voter voting fora candidate. I can’t remember the exact figures but it was something like, 2% would never vote for a woman, 10% would never vote for a black person, 15% would never vote for a Jew, 20% would never vote for a gay person, and 50% would never vote for an atheist. Frightening in an educated, (supposedly) liberal democracy. They'd rather elect a bankrupt dope-smoking adulterous gay Muslim than an atheist. Edited January 21, 2021 by GordonS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, GordonS said: Remember Margaret Thatcher saying that the parable of the Good Samaritan was an argument in favour of capitalism? She said he had to be rich to be in a position to help. The Church of England has been described as the Conservative Party at prayer, though that seems harsh. One of the milestones in the Conservative decline in Scotland was the Sermon on the Mound, when Thatcher lectured the General Assembly on Christianity. It went down like a lead balloon and put a major rift between her and middle class Scotland of the time. Thatcher should have been locked up in a research facility to study the way her mind worked. The conclusions she could come to were astonishing; a genuine genius for evil. Shame she's dead - I'd definitely have watched a YouTube channel where she discussed parables and completely missed the point. Also, if she was alive, she could die again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, GordonS said: They'd rather elect a bankrupt dope-smoking adulterous gay Muslim than an atheist. Thanks for that, more up to date than mine. What a nation of absolute wánkers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Even more worrying than "must believe in sky fairy" - 50% think it's important for their top politician to have military experience, and only 22% think it's a good thing to have prior experience in politics. No wonder they're always invading everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) We may never see their likes again. Edited January 21, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I will never, ever get over the way Trump stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, RiG said: I will never, ever get over the way Trump stands. Like the front half of a centaur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 I will never, ever get over the way Trump stands. I'm sure I read some where (possibly here) that it was linked to some kind of neurological disease 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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