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Deveronvale will be slightly better prepared for Camelon than might have been the case. HL's starting in 2.5 weeks which would have seen their clubs with only 2 competitive games under their belts come the ties compared to 12 by most EOSL clubs. However the Aberdeenshire Cup has now been hastily scheduled for next fortnight meaning they will face Dyce on Tuesday, Formartine next Saturday and so on.

Appears the North of Scotland Cup isn't following suit so Newtongrange and Penicuik/Musselburgh will catch Rothes and Wick comparatively colder.

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On 11/11/2020 at 14:50, HibeeJibee said:

Deveronvale will be slightly better prepared for Camelon than might have been the case. HL's starting in 2.5 weeks which would have seen their clubs with only 2 competitive games under their belts come the ties compared to 12 by most EOSL clubs. However the Aberdeenshire Cup has now been hastily scheduled for next fortnight meaning they will face Dyce on Tuesday, Formartine next Saturday and so on.

Some theory... Deveronvale lost 2-1 at home v North Junior side Dyce in R1!

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Gets underway this Saturday with a pair of preliminary ties.

Penicuik v Musselburgh looks delicately-poised. LTHV are overwhelming favourites to dispatch St Cuthbert Wanderers.


Except for modern Finals and Semi-Finals... these are the first Scottish Cup ties since the Fuel Crisis of 1947 which cannot go to a replay.

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13 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Gets underway this Saturday with a pair of preliminary ties.

Penicuik v Musselburgh looks delicately-poised. LTHV are overwhelming favourites to dispatch St Cuthbert Wanderers.


Except for modern Finals and Semi-Finals... these are the first Scottish Cup ties since the Fuel Crisis of 1947 which cannot go to a replay.

Are these the first ties to be played before the previous seasons final?

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28 minutes ago, patriot1 said:

Are these the first ties to be played before the previous seasons final?

Yep. Of course this is not unknown in more minor competitions... and, though it may be apocryphal, there was allegedly a year when Renfrewshire Cup Final was played before 1 of its own SFs!

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On 11/11/2020 at 14:50, HibeeJibee said:

Deveronvale will be slightly better prepared for Camelon than might have been the case. HL's starting in 2.5 weeks which would have seen their clubs with only 2 competitive games under their belts come the ties compared to 12 by most EOSL clubs. However the Aberdeenshire Cup has now been hastily scheduled for next fortnight meaning they will face Dyce on Tuesday, Formartine next Saturday and so on.

Appears the North of Scotland Cup isn't following suit so Newtongrange and Penicuik/Musselburgh will catch Rothes and Wick comparatively colder.

Wick will have a bit more. Giving that whoever they play. Probably won't be able to hire a coach for the journey. Will mussy/cuicky go up the day before? It's some hike. 

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1 hour ago, lithgierose said:

Wick will have a bit more. Giving that whoever they play. Probably won't be able to hire a coach for the journey. Will mussy/cuicky go up the day before? It's some hike. 

Whoever win should give it the sob story treatment. Coldstream drew Wick a few years ago and the "plucky minnows on their epic trip" ended-up with William Hill and Sky paying all costs.
 

38 minutes ago, GordonS said:

I live for this kind of factoid. Superb.

I'll fact you some more then!

No penalty shootouts in those days so it was "next goal the winner" if still drawn after usual extratime. Aberdeen won QF at Dundee by scoring 9 minutes into a 3rd half of extratime (if that makes sense). Most extreme example was Hibs who beat Motherwell in SF by scoring with only 8 minutes left in 4th half of extratime after 2 hours 22 minutes of continuous play.

It was a terrible winter 1946-47: severe coal shortage, downturn in exports and productivity. To stop absenteeism from factories and mines all midweek sport was banned.

There were no floodlights either and corner count wasn't to be used as tie-breaker. Thankfully it was never required but if darkness had fallen the last resort was to have the captains toss.

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6 hours ago, HibeeJibee said:

Whoever win should give it the sob story treatment. Coldstream drew Wick a few years ago and the "plucky minnows on their epic trip" ended-up with William Hill and Sky paying all costs.
 

I'll fact you some more then!

No penalty shootouts in those days so it was "next goal the winner" if still drawn after usual extratime. Aberdeen won QF at Dundee by scoring 9 minutes into a 3rd half of extratime (if that makes sense). Most extreme example was Hibs who beat Motherwell in SF by scoring with only 8 minutes left in 4th half of extratime after 2 hours 22 minutes of continuous play.

It was a terrible winter 1946-47: severe coal shortage, downturn in exports and productivity. To stop absenteeism from factories and mines all midweek sport was banned.

There were no floodlights either and corner count wasn't to be used as tie-breaker. Thankfully it was never required but if darkness had fallen the last resort was to have the captains toss.

I had no idea we'd ever used super-dooper golden goal. Wow.

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39 minutes ago, GordonS said:

I had no idea we'd ever used super-dooper golden goal. Wow.

It was introduced in England during the war, for an alternative to corners or coin tossing.

(They were pretty unsatisfactory: Rangers won 1942-43 League Cup on corner count and Hibs did so the next season while Rangers won 1941-42 Summer Cup - which was the substitute Scottish Cup for most of the war period - on the toss after drawing with Hibs including on corners).

Longest game in football history was Doncaster v Stockport in 1945-46 Football League North War Cup. It got abandoned for darkness at 2-2 during 8th half of extratime, after 3 hours 23 minutes play. There were reports of fans going home for their dinner, and returning to see the rest of it.


On the otherhand... earlier in the war league results stood if games were abandoned due to enemy action. So when an air raid started 5 minutes into Brighton v Chelsea in autumn 1940 it was FT 0-0. Incidentally there were 50 fans in the park: their all time record low crowd.

 This was clearly an unworkable system and didn't last long...

... it was decided matches could carry on during air raids, provided there were 'spotters' to warn players and fans to take cover 😮.

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FT LTHV 1-1 St Cuthbert - no replay, into extra-time


FT AET Penicuik Athletic 2-3 Musselburgh Athletic (FT 2-2)

Paid-up for £5 stream.

Hammer-n-tongs early-doors.

Musselburgh better both 2nd halfs though Penicuik rallied late in each. Some red cards late-on. Classic cup-tie.

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