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It's going to be interesting to see how folk twist into knots in order to claim they aren't fascists, in the same way people bend over backwards to deflect accusations of racism.

I wonder what the new "Muslim isn't a race" will be.

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11 hours ago, Detournement said:

 

A good article that cuts through a lot of the hyperbole from the idiot chorus. 

I listened to a podcast with Robert Evans who was talking about the exact same thing in part today and the name had me re-reading that tweet for about 20 seconds :lol:

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1 hour ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

Trump staying classy to the end and looting the White House

 

 

That reminds me of when Ceaușescu and his missus stayed at Buckingham Palace, arrived with big empty suitcases and filled them up when they left. Apparently the Netanyahus do something similar.

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11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

That reminds me of when Ceaușescu and his missus stayed at Buckingham Palace, arrived with big empty suitcases and filled them up when they left. Apparently the Netanyahus do something similar.

Didn't know that, would like to read a book about the Ceaucescu's actually bound to be an interesting story. Would love to see that palace they built too.

Netanyahu is one of the most vile human beings walking the face of the earth. We're discussing fascism well he is definitely a real fascist, so nothing would surprise me from him. Didn't know that either though.

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6 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

They don't steal, they take their dirty washing to be done while they're on foreign trips. Apparently he used to get it done in Israel but opposition parties and the press kept covering it so this was his way of still getting it done without spending any cash. I'd like to read a book about them, they sound just unbelievably smalltime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/benjamin-netanyahu-us-visits-dirty-laundry/2020/09/23/8407f52c-fdb3-11ea-830c-a160b331ca62_story.html

Do you mean actual washing here?  Its behind a paywall

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2 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

Do you mean actual washing here?  Its behind a paywall

Click on incognito. I just discovered it, gets you right over the wall, unless it's c***s like the FT.

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We could probably have a whole thread about rich b*****ds being mind-meltingly cheap. However, that Netanyahu thing sounds more like they're just enjoying the insult of making the foreign scullery maids scrub their soiled gussets.

1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

I wonder what the Rules Of Engagement will be for the National Guard on Inauguration Day.

If there are different perimeters will they have orders to use live rounds if inner perimeters are breached.

You're my boy and all, GD, but you seem like you've had a murder semi for a while now.

Aren't there some old tapes of Kent State you could use to satisfy your raging bloodlust?

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35 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

Did not work

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Israel’s Netanyahu brings his dirty laundry to Washington. Literally.

By 
John Hudson
September 23, 2020 at 8:28 p.m. GMT+1

Most politicians go to great lengths to conceal their dirty laundry.

And then there’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Over the years, the Israeli leader has developed a reputation among the staff at the U.S. president’s guesthouse for bringing special cargo on his trips to Washington: bags and suitcases full of dirty laundry, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

The clothes are cleaned for the prime minister free of charge by the U.S. staff, a perk that is available to all foreign leaders but sparingly taken advantage of given the short stays of busy heads of state.

“The Netanyahus are the only ones who bring actual suitcases of dirty laundry for us to clean,” said one U.S. official, who like others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the details of a foreign leader’s visits. “After multiple trips, it became clear this was intentional.”


Israeli officials denied that Netanyahu overuses his American hosts’ laundry services, calling the allegations “absurd,” but they acknowledged that he has been the target of laundry-related accusations in the past.

In 2016, Netanyahu sued his own office and Israel’s attorney general in an effort to prevent the release of his laundry bills under the country’s freedom of information act. The judge sided with Netanyahu, and the details of his laundry bills remain secret pending an appeal in the Supreme Court.

The relatively minor accusation joins a longer list of corruption allegations that have threatened the 70-year-old leader’s hold on power and triggered protests in Israel this month. Netanyahu was indicted in November in a corruption trial involving gifts from wealthy friends and allegations that he sought regulatory benefits for media magnates in return for positive coverage. He is accused of accepting nearly $200,000 worth of gifts from business executives including cases of champagne and boxes of cigars. The trial opened in May and is scheduled to resume in January.


The Israeli Embassy in Washington issued a statement saying the laundry accusation was an attempt to overshadow the success of the normalization agreement that Israel, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates signed at the White House last week.

“These groundless and absurd allegations are aimed at belittling Prime Minister Netanyahu’s monumental achievement in Tuesday’s historic peace summit brokered by President Trump at the White House,” the embassy said in a statement.

The embassy added that Netan­yahu’s laundry needs were relatively modest during his most recent trip.

“On this visit, for example, there was no dry cleaning, only a couple shirts were laundered for the public meeting, and the Prime Minister’s suit and Mrs. Netanyahu’s dress were ironed also for the public meeting. Oh yes, a pair of pajamas that the Prime Minister wore on the 12 hour flight from Israel to Washington was also laundered,” the embassy statement said.


Another U.S. official said Netanyahu’s recent visit did not include multiple suitcases of dirty laundry, unlike several instances in the past. The officials who confirmed the past uses of laundry bags included both political and career officials spanning the Trump and Obama administrations.

The original controversy over Netanyahu’s laundry practices stems from recordings released in 2018 of his close former aide unearthed in the criminal trial against him. The aide, Nir Hefetz, said that Netanyahu’s wife, Sara, “does all kinds of maneuvering to hide all sorts of expenses.”

“On every trip at least four or five suitcases come filled with laundry for dry cleaning, and I’m telling you that journalists have asked me about it and I’ve checked the bills. . . . Nothing appears in the bills, they somehow hid it,” Hefetz said.


Netanyahu denies wrongdoing in the trial, describing it as a left-wing political witch hunt designed to remove a popularly elected leader.

The new allegations offer one possible explanation for why no laundry expenses charged to the Israeli government were found.

“What’s different about this account is that Netanyahu is now being accused of misusing another government’s resources for his dirty laundry — not just his own,” said Eliad Shraga, the founder of the Movement for Quality Government in Israel.

Shraga said his organization took an interest in the laundry issue after reports that Netanyahu and his wife took 11 suitcases on a one-day trip to Portugal in December. Netanyahu’s office denied speculation that the suitcases were filled with dirty laundry, saying they included items he needed for his office work.


In recent weeks, the prime minister’s residence has been the staging ground for weekly protests that have drawn tens of thousands of people over the corruption charges and his handling of the coronavirus pandemic amid a spike in cases.

In an effort to control the outbreak, Israel put into force restrictions on movements and gatherings. The protests were exempt, but police announced new social distancing guidelines for demonstrators last week.

Natan Sachs, an Israel expert at the Brookings Institution, said “the Netanyahus — who travel together even on diplomatic trips — are notorious in Israel for their reportedly extravagant habits.”

Sachs noted that the signing of the agreement with Bahrain and the UAE was a “legacy” moment for Netanyahu, which he had worked toward for years.

“The contrast of the historic achievement and the petty acts is remarkable, even tragic,” he said.

 

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