aDONisSheep Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, 101 said: Instead of saying that Trump is more than complicit and saying he won't be allowed back into the UK, she looks like her world is collapsing. Totally unfit for office. Jesus H Christ, I'm about to defend Priti Patel Although she hasn't used the word 'condemn' there is no doubt that she's laying some blame on Trump. "His comments directly led to the violence, and so far he has failed to condemn that violence and that is completely wrong." "He basically has made a number of comments yesterday that helped to fuel that violence and he didn't actually do anything to de-escalate that whatsoever" She's still totally unfit for er... office anything. Yours, I'm defending Priti Patel, these are indeed strange times we live in! aDONis Edited January 7, 2021 by aDONisSheep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) These twats are delusions, and if the FBI aren't waiting for him when he gets back home, something is really wrong with murica Edited January 7, 2021 by Gus Setsniffer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, 101 said: Instead of saying that Trump is more than complicit and saying he won't be allowed back into the UK, she looks like her world is collapsing. Totally unfit for office. Expecting her to say anything against him is pointless, like asking Ted Cruz to denounce Trump. They are all cut from the same cloth and the Tories model themselves on Trump and his methods. We are just a bit further back on the same road here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Pritti just needs to send the guy a note explaining how Empires and Vassal states work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: These twats are delusions, and if the FBI aren't waiting for him when he gets back home, something is really wrong with murica The boy is obviously an idiot for being a Trump supporter but if he was a climate or BLM protestor everything he said would be on the money about the violence of the US government, the $2000 cheques and elected officials not representing the people who vote for them. It's very handy for US elites that legitimate grievances are being funnelled by online radicalisation towards dead end avenues like QANON rather than towards forms of politics which can challenge their power and privilege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsOfficialMoaner Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I like the teenager and feel sorry for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, Detournement said: It's weird that the police have zero interest in finding out how Thomas Mair got the gun and don't let him speak to anyone in prison...... There's no reason to believe that first bit. It's almost certainly a conspiracy theory. The police say they have investigated it for 4 years and don't have any evidence to go on. They know where and when it was stolen, they very much doubt it was stolen by Mair and believe it was passed to him and that there was no forensic evidence on the gun pointing to anyone else, as it had been cleaned. Unless Mair confesses, we'll probably never know. As for the second bit, the police don't control who gets access to prisoners. I imagine HMPS are quite careful about who gets to interview a Nazi terrorist though. Where did you get this from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: These twats are delusions, and if the FBI aren't waiting for him when he gets back home, something is really wrong with murica I never thought they would shoot me in the face, gasps terminally wounded woman, who voted for lets storm the parliament, ignore warnings that you're about to get shot in the face, and getting shot in the face party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, HeartsOfficialMoaner said: I like the teenager and feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for him, he's been radicalised by a tsunami of online lies. He's absolutely deluded out of his mind. But in a free country with huge access to information, at some level you have to choose to believe this shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Jamiroquai https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2021/01/06/arizona-qanon-supporter-jake-angeli-joins-storming-u-s-capitol/6568513002/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 https://davidallengreen.com/2021/01/the-contest-between-violent-populism-and-constitutionalism-and-why-it-was-not-inevitable-that-yesterdays-attempted-coup-in-the-united-states-would-fail/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 By the way, apparently this guy's sweatshirt says "Staff" on the back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, GordonS said: I feel sorry for him, he's been radicalised by a tsunami of online lies. He's absolutely deluded out of his mind. But in a free country with huge access to information, at some level you have to choose to believe this shit. aye, if she was born in Hamilton, Stirling or Dundee, she'd be alive and just an arsehole Facebook maw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, GordonS said: As for the second bit, the police don't control who gets access to prisoners. I imagine HMPS are quite careful about who gets to interview a Nazi terrorist though. Where did you get this from? I don't draw distinctions between parts of the security state. The Guardian article above explains that almost all of his correspondence is censored and that he is held in segregation. I find it very strange that Mair had an accomplice but very little has been said about it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauzen Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gus Setsniffer said: aye, if she was born in Hamilton, Stirling or Dundee, she'd be alive and just an arsehole Facebook maw Those veins in her neck gave them a fucking massive target to aim at, couldn't have missed imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, aDONisSheep said: I never thought they would shoot me in the face, gasps terminally wounded woman, who voted for lets storm the parliament, ignore warnings that you're about to get shot in the face, and getting shot in the face party. It's the Hollywood influence. The main character doesn't get shot in the face. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, GordonS said: There's no reason to believe that first bit. It's almost certainly a conspiracy theory. The police say they have investigated it for 4 years and don't have any evidence to go on. They know where and when it was stolen, they very much doubt it was stolen by Mair and believe it was passed to him and that there was no forensic evidence on the gun pointing to anyone else, as it had been cleaned. Unless Mair confesses, we'll probably never know. As for the second bit, the police don't control who gets access to prisoners. I imagine HMPS are quite careful about who gets to interview a Nazi terrorist though. Where did you get this from? As you say, the gun was stolen from a farm 15 miles away, 10 months earlier, so I don't see the necessity for some grand theory of collusion to explain it. And it's standard practice for convicted terrorists to be held in solitary, at least for the first few years. Anyway, what it was like to be in the Capitol Building.. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/07/capitol-storming-siege-congress-inside-first-person-oral-history-455715 Edited January 7, 2021 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, MixuFruit said: I don't feel at all sorry for that guy. I kind of do a wee bit. It’s a bit like the guys who go off to Syria where you think “what has happened/gone wrong to lead to this?” Clearly the guys has been radicalised and you wonder if something could have prevented it. On the other hand, he was an active participant in a fascist coup attempt, so f**k him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 You would hope that the videos of participants might provoke a different perspective from centrist talking heads next time they point to an obvious right wing coup in another country and say "it can't be a coup, look, they say they're democrats!" But I think it will not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 All these people doing that for Trump, a guy who has probably never been involved in a physical confrontation his whole life. Sheltered and protected from birth, dodged going into the army and is directly responsible for these four deaths. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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