EdinburghPar1975 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, MONKMAN said: If this doesn’t descent into utter chaos resulting in a redneck uprising, I’ll be bitterly disappointed. Billy JimBob and his Mum/ Sister/ Cousin are on standby... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, EdinburghPar1975 said: Billy JimBob and his Mum/ Sister/ Cousin are on standby... Gonna need more than 2 people. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Jambomo said: I’m not sure I am quite as confident that Trump is out of this as the media seems to be. Still massively close. Trump's chances of winning one of the close races are reasonable, but his chances of winning the three he needs are very slim. According to those in the know, Trump's lead in Pennsylvania isn't enough to make up for the outstanding votes. Even if it is, Biden only needs Nevada (where he is heavy favourite) and Arizona (which looks like it'll be close, but which some have already called in his favour). That's without mentioning Georgia, where some have Biden as slight favourite. If Trump loses that then he's almost certainly done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: The Dems have had an absolute shocker here and Biden scraping a narrow victory isn't going to paper over the cracks.... Trump has a built in advantage of being able to win from anything under 3% back on the popular vote in the context of the electoral college. Most of the polls probably had an inherent +3% to Biden bias for uncorrected methodological reasons that have been cropping up election after election but never get fixed because people like Nate Silver would lose their audience if they don't tell them what they want to hear by contradicting the prevailing group think. Taking those factors into account and assuming there are no legal shenanigans that stop the vote counts reaching their natural completion, Biden could easily be over 300 on the electoral college when the dust settles with what should be viewed as a solid victory in the context of a system where the cards are stacked against him . In 2016, the Dems would probably have done better and won with Bernie Sanders because a large portion of the electorate clearly wanted a radical change rather than more of the same, but this time there were probably more votes to be gained in the middle ground with Biden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, EdinburghPar1975 said: Billy JimBob and his Mum/ Sister/ Cousin are on standby... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, DC92 said: Trump's chances of winning one of the close races are reasonable, but his chances of winning the three he needs are very slim. According to those in the know, Trump's lead in Pennsylvania isn't enough to make up for the outstanding votes. Even if it is, Biden only needs Nevada (where he is heavy favourite) and Arizona (which looks like it'll be close, but which some have already called in his favour). That's without mentioning Georgia, where some have Biden as slight favourite. If Trump loses that then he's almost certainly done. I definitely hope this is right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: The Dems have had an absolute shocker here and Biden scraping a narrow victory isn't going to paper over the cracks. The fact that Trump has increased his vote share by around 4 million and with hispanics, women and blacks is incredible and pretty damning for the Democrats. They’ve flipped Georgia. They’ve flipped Wisconsin and Michigan. They’ve selected the candidate who was most popular in those states, and he’s won. Biden has garnered more votes than any other candidate in history. He’s absolutely not a progressive candidate, but he’s beaten Trump and that’s all this election was ever about. Edited November 5, 2020 by Savage Henry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Savage Henry said: They’ve flipped Georgia. They’ve flipped Wisconsin and Wisconsin. They’ve selected the candidate who was most popular in those states, and he’s won. Biden has garnered more votes than any other candidate in history. He’s absolutely not a progressive candidate, but he’s beaten Trump and that’s all this election was ever about. Where are you seeing Georgia? AP still has Tromp by 0.4% 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Savage Henry said: They’ve flipped Georgia. They’ve flipped Wisconsin and Wisconsin. They’ve selected the candidate who was most popular in those states, and he’s won. Biden has garnered more votes than any other candidate in history. He’s absolutely not a progressive candidate, but he’s beaten Trump and that’s all this election was ever about. I can see why Trump is calling foul. They flipped Wisconsin twice? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Heliums Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: They’ve flipped Georgia. They’ve flipped Wisconsin and Wisconsin. Been watching too much of Trump's spiritual adviser, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, aDONisSheep said: Where are you seeing Georgia? AP still has Tromp by 0.4% Yeah, it's right down to the wire. And more to the point if Biden doesn't win it my 3 holidays profit comes right down to one holiday, which I think we can all agree would be a disastrous night for democracy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Billy JimBob and his Mum/ Sister/ Cousin are on standby...The catfish will be relieved, a day off being hauled out their Louisiana river holes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 The fact Fox news of all people are now calling states before others is a sign that he is utterly fucked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, aDONisSheep said: Where are you seeing Georgia? AP still has Tromp by 0.4% Yeah, you’re right there. Too close to call there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, pub car king said: The fact Fox news of all people are now calling states before others is a sign that he is utterly fucked. Fox News data team has always been quick to call stuff even for Dems. Karl Rove had a legendary break down and stormed into their office live on air when they called a state very early for Obama in 2012. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, pub car king said: The fact Fox news of all people are now calling states before others is a sign that he is utterly fucked. It's going to be a bit embarrassing for them if they fucked it in on Arizona. Maybe Murdoch decided he's had enough fun from Trump but a joke's a joke and it's time for a change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, pub car king said: The fact Fox news of all people are now calling states before others is a sign that he is utterly fucked. It’s more a sign of lax confirmation standards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, EdinburghPar1975 said: Billy JimBob and his Mum/ Sister/ Cousin are on standby... It’s not ironic that this is being posted by a supporter of a Fife team. No sir, not ironic at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, pub car king said: The fact Fox news of all people are now calling states before others is a sign that he is utterly fucked. ...and that mainstream Republicans want no part of his childish temper tantrums over losing. Fox doing that signalled that loud and clear and undermined his narrative big time because it made Biden's path to 270 very clear and non-controversial for any sane unbiased observer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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