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I’m sure the other game against Queens at EEP that season was a freezing cold Tuesday night. In fact, I’m almost certain 85% of Dunfermline vs QotS games at EEP are cold Tuesday nights.

Half of the Norrie and the whole North stand was closed that night, something to do with water/pipes freezing IIRC.
Your memory deceives you ever so slightly smpar, was just a saturday afternoon. Youre right in it was absolutely freezing right enough and NW and half the norrie was shut. Again we went down to ten men then Cardle got the winner near the end.
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Your memory deceives you ever so slightly smpar, was just a saturday afternoon. Youre right in it was absolutely freezing right enough and NW and half the norrie was shut. Again we went down to ten men then Cardle got the winner near the end.

Right you are. The 5-2 was a Saturday as well but they always feel like a Tuesday night, especially the half empty Norrie night.
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16 hours ago, parsforlife said:

Given how turgid our games can be, they have produced a few excellent moments.    Clark heading home from outside the area as Robinson fell on his arse or Bob Harris producing the finish of a lifetime.... into his own net,

A true Shockmaster moment from Robinson. I was at the game. It was the last game of the season was it not? It was rank save for Robinson taking one for the patter. Very amusing stuff.

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1 hour ago, ThroughtheTurnstiles said:
In-depth preview of this game in this episode, each game is time stamped in the description, feedback appreciated.
 
 

I don't understand the general puzzlement on the panel that our subs bench isn't capable of improving the first eleven! 🥴 Isn't it generally the case for every club that the bench players are not seen as better than the first eleven? Er, that's why they are on the bench! If they were better they'd be in the starting eleven.

And whoever it is that thinks Dobbie's goals in any way, shape or form relied on the service of Andy Stirling clearly has never watched us at all! Dykes yes, absolutely massive factor in Dobbie's dropped productivity. As is the fact, he'll be 38 in a month.

And no matter how often people keep repeating it, Partick Thistle were not a point behind us with a game in hand when Covid shut us down. They were two points behind and only a win in Inverness would have got them ahead.

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3 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said:

I don't understand the general puzzlement on the panel that our subs bench isn't capable of improving the first eleven! 🥴 Isn't it generally the case for every club that the bench players are not seen as better than the first eleven? Er, that's why they are on the bench! If they were better they'd be in the starting eleven.

And whoever it is that thinks Dobbie's goals in any way, shape or form relied on the service of Andy Stirling clearly has never watched us at all! Dykes yes, absolutely massive factor in Dobbie's dropped productivity. As is the fact, he'll be 38 in a month.

And no matter how often people keep repeating it, Partick Thistle were not a point behind us with a game in hand when Covid shut us down. They were two points behind and only a win in Inverness would have got them ahead.

Would you not agree that across the league on Saturday most teams had subs who were on par with the players starting and would be viable options to come in without weakening the team? The point trying to be made was that QoS don't have luxury of making changes without weakening the team.

Alloa - Graham / Buchanan / Scougall / Malcolm

Ayr - Cameron / Houston

ICT - Kennedy

Dunfermline - Turner / O'Hara / McCann

Raith - Spencer

Dundee - McGowan / Robertson / Elliott

Hearts - Irving / Haring / Wighton / Naismith

Arborath - Linn / Donnelly / Gold / Whatley

Morton - Nesbitt / Oliver / Maciver

Andy Stirling - 9 assists in 2018/19, would suggest that some were for Dobbie?

Apologies for the mistake regarding the points difference, should know better than that.

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Tbf when we brought on McGrory last week we looked far better. He did replace Joe McKee who was rotten so it may have been more to do with that.

Joe McKee’s a horrible wee ableist. Wouldn’t want anyone like him near my club.
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1 hour ago, ThroughtheTurnstiles said:

Would you not agree that across the league on Saturday most teams had subs who were on par with the players starting and would be viable options to come in without weakening the team? The point trying to be made was that QoS don't have luxury of making changes without weakening the team.

Alloa - Graham / Buchanan / Scougall / Malcolm

Ayr - Cameron / Houston

ICT - Kennedy

Dunfermline - Turner / O'Hara / McCann

Raith - Spencer

Dundee - McGowan / Robertson / Elliott

Hearts - Irving / Haring / Wighton / Naismith

Arborath - Linn / Donnelly / Gold / Whatley

Morton - Nesbitt / Oliver / Maciver

Andy Stirling - 9 assists in 2018/19, would suggest that some were for Dobbie?

Apologies for the mistake regarding the points difference, should know better than that.

Apart from Pybus, Robinson and McGrory, I completely agree

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5 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:
5 hours ago, DA Baracus said:
Found the goal!
From 25 seconds. Forget that Robinson slipped twice. Great stuff. Also someone in the Pars end was dressed as Donald Trump.
 

I was utterly paraletic that day!!!

Good times 

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3 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Or Cameron and Houston at Ayr? 

Err... Houston is our first choice right back as he was last season he's just a couple of weeks behind because of injury in preseason. Big Innes is on loan from them up the road but he did score on Saturday.

Houston certainly isn't unproven. Innes you can argue is for sure though.

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2 hours ago, ThroughtheTurnstiles said:

Would you not agree that across the league on Saturday most teams had subs who were on par with the players starting and would be viable options to come in without weakening the team? The point trying to be made was that QoS don't have luxury of making changes without weakening the team.

Alloa - Graham / Buchanan / Scougall / Malcolm

Ayr - Cameron / Houston

ICT - Kennedy

Dunfermline - Turner / O'Hara / McCann

Raith - Spencer

Dundee - McGowan / Robertson / Elliott

Hearts - Irving / Haring / Wighton / Naismith

Arborath - Linn / Donnelly / Gold / Whatley

Morton - Nesbitt / Oliver / Maciver

Andy Stirling - 9 assists in 2018/19, would suggest that some were for Dobbie?

No, not particularly, but you're missing the point. You didnt say other teams had better subs (they may well do, clearly clubs like Hearts, Dunfermline and Dundee in particular have far deeper squads). What was said was that other clubs had players on the bench who were capable of improving the first eleven and we didnt. Which is complete nonsense unless you are suggesting all the other managers are deliberately starting with better players on the bench than they have on the pitch.

In any event, Dan Pybus has been a regular starter for over a year who was on the bench as he was coming back from a hamstring strain. We were missing our regular left back through suspension too which weakened the squad. And Kieran McKechnie is injured though he would have been dismissed too as unproven no doubt. Which is true, but its also true of several of the players you have chosen to list above as 'game changers'. Calvin McGrory was probably our best player when he came on. 

But you're entitled to think our subs are rubbish if you like, thats fine. My issue was the suggestion that having players on the bench not as good as those on the pitch was somehow 'strange'.

I'd like to see a source for that Andy Stirling assist stat too? 9 in the league? Really? There's a reason why he went to Alloa and couldnt get a game there before dropping a division. He has some talent for sure but there's rarely an end product. He got fouled for at least one penalty Dobbie scored right enough. Does that count as an assist?

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2 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:

. He got fouled for at least one penalty Dobbie scored right enough. Does that count as an assist?

Not to take this off topic, but I've often though it should count as an assist if you're fouled for a penalty. 

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18 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Err... Houston is our first choice right back as he was last season he's just a couple of weeks behind because of injury in preseason. Big Innes is on loan from them up the road but he did score on Saturday.

Houston certainly isn't unproven. Innes you can argue is for sure though.

He might be your first choice but hes made less than 20 appearances at this level. 

Not saying he isnt any good but he is still relatively unproven, or at least inexperienced

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