Feeling like an adult

[Stellaboz 5,753]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

Have to say that I think it's cover for being monumentally lazy and not wanting the hassle, an attitude that I heartily share. I don't claim it as a virtue though, there are no rights and wrongs about breeding choices. Somebody has to look after me in my dotage and we can't rely on outsourcing our breeding to poorer countries for ever.

It's not lazy not to want to have children. I thought at one point in my life that it would solve my problems, I thought it would fix a broken relationship... thankfully it didn't come to pass. I couldn't even look after myself at that point in my life, I wouldn't have been able to look after another.  

Now, I realize that I'm not obliged to by society despite what anyone says and I'm happy with that. Maybe my feelings will change, maybe not. 

1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Indeed.

I'm not criticising anyone's breeding choices.  A couple of posters on here are though, and I find their logic unconvincing.

I'm happy with my stance on the matter. We're at a point in history where we're becoming over-populated and if things continue as they are, basic needs are going to start becoming in short supply. It's our duty to all future generations to reign it in. So yes, I feel that people making big families now a selfish and unreasonable choice. 

[DA Baracus 16,498]

An absolutely mental shout to say that not wanting kids is lazy, although I suspect it wasn't a serious post.

 

[Monkey Tennis 10,467]

1 minute ago, DA Baracus said:

An absolutely mental shout to say that not wanting kids is lazy, although I suspect it wasn't a serious post.

 

Not half as mental as implying that having them is morally wrong.

[Stellaboz 5,753]

1 minute ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Not half as mental as implying that having them is morally wrong.

As I've said, at this point in history having a shitload of them is IMO. 

[John Lambies Doos 3,984]

Totally agree with much that's written. I was in the supermarket couple of weeks back and a small child barged past me, the child's mother reprehended the child and told him to apologise to the man. I immediately looked around for the man she was referring to...

[Sergeant Wilson 21,067]

1 minute ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Totally agree with much that's written. I was in the supermarket couple of weeks back and a small child barged past me, the child's mother reprehended the child and told him to apologise to the man. I immediately looked around for the man she was referring to...

Was the child reprehensible?

I know you are!

[welshbairn 18,222]

43 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

An absolutely mental shout to say that not wanting kids is lazy, although I suspect it wasn't a serious post.

 

It's just as mental to say that having kids is selfish imo. My reasons for not having kids are more complicated but laziness definitely plays a part.

[Fullerene 1,314]

6 hours ago, beefybake said:

^^^^^^^^    Not in fighting mood today.

Yes.  Nothing controversial today.  I thought he was a lot of older but if you didn't think so then who am I to argue.

[D.A.F.C 6,205]

I've got a really puerile sense of humour and similar to above some kid made me laugh uncontrollably in the supermarket once because he kept trying to wind his mum up by shouting "ALAN ALAN ALAN"
from the dubbed gopher thing on bbc.
He noticed me laughing so I said it back.
His mum wasn't amused as if he'd now be doing it for ages.
Kept bumping into them as well.
Mummy mummy alan alan alan
Shut up, just shut up.

[MixuFruit 11,459]

Not having kids to save the planet is a bit of a weird idea. Plus @Stellaboz you said you had 2 cats, which have a carbon footprint equivalent to a small car each & probably kill a hundred birds a year (research suggests they only bring home about 30% of what they actually kill). I know we all have to do our best and can't be perfect but it's a stretch to imply it's some act of nobility.

I have some colleagues at work who go down this eco warrior approach and it's fine and admirable to an extent, however when they're reciting their litany of hidden damage caused by having a ham sandwich or whatever I always have to resist the temptation of pointing out they'd save a huge amount of carbon emissions if they went and lay down in traffic.

Overpopulation's a bit of a red herring too. There's enough capacity to sustainably produce the calories globally to sustain the entire population at a level enjoyed by people in Lyon in the 1960s. It's just that we in the west tend to use too much of it. Latest research on climate change has ruled out the best and worst case scenarios anyway, so relax. You're only causing a net increase if you have more than 2 kids, because some kids die so even if you're having 2 it's not even a like for like replacement (I believe the tread-water number is ~2.1). If you have a kid it's not going to be the drop that broke the dam.

I don't wish to make great assumptions but if you hold this strong opinion and express it to your other half, are you 100% sure she's in agreement, or just nodding and smiling and perhaps in a corner of her mind wondering if it's a phase you'll maybe get past when the time comes?

Edited October 20 by MixuFruit

[Genuine Hibs Fan 1,229]

I'm going to have 18 kids just to spite some of folk in here. 

[Blootoon87 1,914]

I'm never having bairns, well I'm not planning to anyway. I'm single and not getting much sex at the moment so the plan is working a treat.

[Granny Danger 16,409]

My wife and I have decided we don’t want children.

 

If anyone does want them I can drop them off.

 

[BFTD 5,886]

43 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

My wife and I have decided we don’t want children.

If anyone does want them I can drop them off.

IIRC, you work with some of your kids.

If they're good workers, I could use some slaves.

[Detournement 1,578]

7 hours ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:

I'm going to have 18 kids just to spite some of folk in here. 

Ok Leigh. 

[Genuine Hibs Fan 1,229]

24 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Ok Leigh. 

Thumbs up emoji

[Stellaboz 5,753]

Not having kids to save the planet is a bit of a weird idea. Plus [mention=27442]Stellaboz[/mention] you said you had 2 cats, which have a carbon footprint equivalent to a small car each & probably kill a hundred birds a year (research suggests they only bring home about 30% of what they actually kill). I know we all have to do our best and can't be perfect but it's a stretch to imply it's some act of nobility.
I have some colleagues at work who go down this eco warrior approach and it's fine and admirable to an extent, however when they're reciting their litany of hidden damage caused by having a ham sandwich or whatever I always have to resist the temptation of pointing out they'd save a huge amount of carbon emissions if they went and lay down in traffic.
Overpopulation's a bit of a red herring too. There's enough capacity to sustainably produce the calories globally to sustain the entire population at a level enjoyed by people in Lyon in the 1960s. It's just that we in the west tend to use too much of it. Latest research on climate change has ruled out the best and worst case scenarios anyway, so relax. You're only causing a net increase if you have more than 2 kids, because some kids die so even if you're having 2 it's not even a like for like replacement (I believe the tread-water number is ~2.1). If you have a kid it's not going to be the drop that broke the dam.
I don't wish to make great assumptions but if you hold this strong opinion and express it to your other half, are you 100% sure she's in agreement, or just nodding and smiling and perhaps in a corner of her mind wondering if it's a phase you'll maybe get past when the time comes?

My 2 cats are indoor cats so have never killed any birds. One would be a murderous machine if she was though! The other would be mates with them.
Actually she brought it up first without my encouragement and I'm much more prone to say how strongly I feel on here. I have close friends with kids (at most 2) and feel nothing but love for them. Except their father who thinks it's acceptable to drink Carling.

I'm going to have 18 kids just to spite some of folk in here. 

Let's have them together bbz x

[Scary Bear 3,178]

18 hours ago, Stellaboz said:

As I've said, at this point in history having a shitload of them is IMO. 

Best thing for Scotland would be a population boom. Everyone should get shagging.

Guaranteed to make you feel like an adult.

Edited October 21 by Scary Bear

[beefybake 343]

“Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cozy, doesn't try it on. ”

William Connolly.

[Stellaboz 5,753]

6 minutes ago, Scary Bear said:

Best thing for Scotland would be a population boom. Everyone should get shagging.

Guaranteed to make you feel like an adult.

On a completely unrelated topic, your avatar is exactly in line with the drum beat of me listening to "Boom Boom Boom" by the Vengaboys that just came onto my Spotify. 

So for that, I'm shagging you first.