NotThePars Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: Either of these two in charge is not going to happen, because as you rightly suggest that would bring about a noticeable fall in support for independence. There are several others I can think of who would be much more suited to take over, although I do also strongly believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I was going off a hazy recollection of the betting. Paddy Power still lists them as 3rd and 4th favourites with Angus Robertson and Kate Forbes 1 and 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Just now, NotThePars said: I was going off a hazy recollection of the betting. Paddy Power still lists them as 3rd and 4th favourites with Angus Robertson and Kate Forbes 1 and 2. Two excellent choices, others I can think of would be Stephen Gethins or Mike Russell, but I'm reluctant to speculate on this while we have the best possible leader in place right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 I think Sturgeon's unprecedented popularity is a factor in the SNP and independence polling at such unprecedented levels. It's nothing about the Scottish being uniquely simple, it's just the way we all associate political movements with personalities. Replace Sturgeon with Swinney or Cherry and I think there's a noticeable fall even if it's not necessarily below 50%.Said on the other thread - apolitical women shifting because of Sturgeon. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 14/10/2020 at 10:47, cmontheloknow said: 16 if it's Mackay. Under16 surely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, NotThePars said: I was going off a hazy recollection of the betting. Paddy Power still lists them as 3rd and 4th favourites with Angus Robertson and Kate Forbes 1 and 2. Relieved to see simple wee Skye hedgefunder crofter Ian Blackford doesn't even get a mention. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 ISturgeon & Co are far more interested in their own ends than independence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, ayrmad said: ISturgeon & Co are far more interested in their own ends than independence. What are they then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Am I the only one who would be pretty unenthusiastic about Kate Forbes being FM? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 The odds for the next leader mean nothing anyway at the moment whether it be for Forbes, Blackford or whoever. There isn’t going to be a new leader for quite a while and events dear boy dictate all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Londonwell said: The odds for the next leader mean nothing anyway at the moment whether it be for Forbes, Blackford or whoever. There isn’t going to be a new leader for quite a while and events dear boy dictate all. Quite. The Baathist element would appear to be a bit niche. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, dirty dingus said: In fairness, it's very clear that she's not saying anything degrading when you actually stretch that 10 seconds of context to 15 seconds. A brutal point with a bad soundbite but her overall point was so basic (i.e. we don't have a pre-determined political view point that will remain indefinitely) that no one could really disagree with it. She was just really shite at politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Am I the only one who would be pretty unenthusiastic about Kate Forbes being FM? I think she could be a good leader but she's being touted by many for the wrong reasons. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure she's competent enough in her day job but she's not really had to go on the record and firm her politics up in any way yet (apart from the whole Christian stuff), you need some sort of ideology out there and being competent isn't enough in itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie adie Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Blackford is a twat, I can't stand him and his bloody 3 piece suit, Id sooner see Angus Robertson at the helm -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Am I the only one who would be pretty unenthusiastic about Kate Forbes being FM? Well she probably won't have a look in in the near future so I wouldn't worry about it. Ask again in 8-10 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 3 hours ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Am I the only one who would be pretty unenthusiastic about Kate Forbes being FM? Yeh, i’d be deeply concerned about anyone who was a member of the free kirk being FM or PM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted October 15, 2020 Author Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 14/10/2020 at 13:36, MixuFruit said: Do you think support for independence would be higher or lower with a different leader? Persons and events out with have done all the damage to the union. That is the reason we are now nudging 55% to 60%. I don't think the leader of the SNP has had to do too much in fairness. Just avoid any absolute howlers.....eg like telling porkies to the SP. (If they have not avoided any of the said absolute howlers it will no doubt come out in the Yoon press at the worst possible time for independence supporters before the 2021 election) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Persons and events out with have done all the damage to the union. That is the reason we are now nudging 55% to 60%. I don't think the leader of the SNP has had to do too much in fairness. Just avoid any absolute howlers.....eg like telling porkies to the SP. (If they have not avoided any of the said absolute howlers it will no doubt come out in the Yoon press at the worst possible time for independence supporters before the 2021 election) According to pollsters, Sturgeon is winning women voters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Yeh, i’d be deeply concerned about anyone who was a member of the free kirk being allowed to breed. FTFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Yeh, i’d be deeply concerned about anyone who was a member of the free kirk being FM or PM. Baron Mackay of Clashfern was born in Edinburgh the son of a railway signalman, an active member and elder of the Free Kirk, highly intelligent with degrees in mathematics and law he was Lord Advocate the senior law officer in Scotland and he was subsequently appointed Lord Chancellor (1987 - 1997), at westminster. The position of Lord Chancellor outranks a Prime Minister. In the eighties he attended a couple of Roman Catholic Colleagues funerals and as a result the kirk suspended his membership and eldership, at a further hearing he was offered to recant but refused and left the church, deeply religious he now worships with the Inverness congregation of the Associated Presbyterian Church. So a wee free has held high office. Edited October 16, 2020 by SandyCromarty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: Baron Mackay of Clashfern was born in Edinburgh the son of a railway signalman, an active member and elder of the Free Kirk, highly intelligent with degrees in mathematics and law he was Lord Advocate the senior law officer in Scotland and he was subsequently appointed Lord Chancellor (1987 - 1997), at westminster. The position of Lord Chancellor outranks a Prime Minister. In the eighties he attended a couple of Roman Catholic Colleagues funerals and as a result the kirk suspended his membership and eldership, at a further hearing he was offered to recant but refused and left the church, deeply religious he now worships with the Inverness congregation of the Associated Presbyterian Church. So a wee free has held high office. He seems a decent man. My Mum and him had a mutual friend who was very ill, and they had a few chats on the phone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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