Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I hate linking to a TV program as an example, however this seems to be the only kind of insight most people have and in terms of relatability, i’d say Southland is one of the best police themed shows ever made in terms of realism etc second only to the wire and bosch. This scene has a police officer shot by a suspect handcuffed to the rear and although we have nothing other than the info from the IOPC statement etc this particular example shows ‘how it could have happened’. https://youtu.be/V_EKwNOuBUg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: I hate linking to a TV program as an example, however this seems to be the only kind of insight most people have and in terms of relatability, i’d say Southland is one of the best police themed shows ever made in terms of realism etc second only to the wire and bosch. This scene has a police officer shot by a suspect handcuffed to the rear and although we have nothing other than the info from the IOPC statement etc this particular example shows ‘how it could have happened’. https://youtu.be/V_EKwNOuBUg You will obviously have a greater insight and understanding on these matters than most of the rest of us. Can you explain how, if the suspect was searched, and quantities of drugs and ammunition were found, no gun was found? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: You will obviously have a greater insight and understanding on these matters than most of the rest of us. Can you explain how, if the suspect was searched, and quantities of drugs and ammunition were found, no gun was found? No because i wasnt there??? Most likely human error???? Not everything has to be a massive conspiracy. The IOPC would not be involved in a cover up for the police. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: No because i wasnt there??? Most likely human error???? Not everything has to be a massive conspiracy. The IOPC would not be involved in a cover up for the police. I haven't suggested there was/is any kind of a massive conspiracy going on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said: You will obviously have a greater insight and understanding on these matters than most of the rest of us. Can you explain how, if the suspect was searched, and quantities of drugs and ammunition were found, no gun was found? In RN basic training, we had a day spent detaining and searching people. Whilst we went on a fag break, one guy was kept back and when we returned a volunteer was told to frisk him. He was dutifully patted down and nothing found. The instructor then gleefully pulled out the hand grenade, explosives and detonators they'd hidden on him. The best bit was when he removed the belt of machine gun ammunition from around his waist! It's very easy to miss stuff on a search, particularly if the situation is tense, the suspect is struggling and/or the person doing the search is inexperienced. Wasn't one of the arresting officers a Special Constable? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: That looks more even more difficult than the Dele Ali thingy. It's easy, I even taught boss. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 52 minutes ago, NewBornBairn said: In RN basic training, we had a day spent detaining and searching people. Whilst we went on a fag break, one guy was kept back and when we returned a volunteer was told to frisk him. He was dutifully patted down and nothing found. The instructor then gleefully pulled out the hand grenade, explosives and detonators they'd hidden on him. The best bit was when he removed the belt of machine gun ammunition from around his waist! It's very easy to miss stuff on a search, particularly if the situation is tense, the suspect is struggling and/or the person doing the search is inexperienced. Wasn't one of the arresting officers a Special Constable? Words like hell and fucking spring to mind here! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, NewBornBairn said: In RN basic training, we had a day spent detaining and searching people. Whilst we went on a fag break, one guy was kept back and when we returned a volunteer was told to frisk him. He was dutifully patted down and nothing found. The instructor then gleefully pulled out the hand grenade, explosives and detonators they'd hidden on him. The best bit was when he removed the belt of machine gun ammunition from around his waist! It's very easy to miss stuff on a search, particularly if the situation is tense, the suspect is struggling and/or the person doing the search is inexperienced. Wasn't one of the arresting officers a Special Constable? When I were a lad I had a half ounce of soap bar on me and got pulled over by plod after being followed for a bit. I managed to put the hash in my right sock on the inside of my leg before I got out. When they told me they were going to pat me down I presumed they were going to find it and resigned myself to the fact I was going back to the cop shop. The officer doing the search seemed to touch every bit of my body except for where the dope was and let me go on my merry way. The relief was immense. Fun fact: That stop and search happened only yards from where Declan Gallagher and his mates would eventually leather someone with a baseball bat and get time for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Soft black used to stick easy to coins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lofarl said: Soft black used to stick easy to coins. My mate got his hands on a bit down in London a couple of months back. I didn't think it was a thing anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dee Man said: My mate got his hands on a bit down in London a couple of months back. I didn't think it was a thing anymore. Most people seem to be onto that shatter stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: I'm glad I'm not on Facebook, or any other of that "Look at me" sh*te. P&B is quite bad enough, thank you very many. Oh there’s loads, Facebook is vewy vewy angry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ICTJohnboy said: Words like hell and fucking spring to mind here! It certainly got our attention ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 1 minute ago, NewBornBairn said: It certainly got our attention ! Whilst not quite a grenade, I do remember being told about a woman who covertly brought in a pack of fags, some drugs, a can of irn bru and a lighter... you can imagine where it was stored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Whilst not quite a grenade, I do remember being told about a woman who covertly brought in a pack of fags, some drugs, a can of irn bru and a lighter... you can imagine where it was stored. Her handbag? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Whilst not quite a grenade, I do remember being told about a woman who covertly brought in a pack of fags, some drugs, a can of irn bru and a lighter... you can imagine where it was stored. I've been with a few birds who look like they've had a grenade detonate in their fanny. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Shandön Par said: Her handbag? Is that what the kids are calling it these days? I thought they were using terms like blue waffle etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 In the build up to a major terrorist trial a number of years ago myself and a colleague walked into the designated prison area with the component parts of a gun secreted about us. We were searched and scanned and permitted entry. There was much embarrassment when we went into a room and assembled the gun and caller the searching officers in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: I'm glad I'm not on Facebook, or any other of that "Look at me" sh*te. P&B is quite bad enough, thank you very many. 97% won’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 On 26/09/2020 at 23:16, heedthebaa said: Hopefully the 3% were about. Didn’t notice this, so they may be on holiday or have COVID-19 or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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