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14 minutes ago, BFTD said:

There seem to be a disturbing number of folk who've convinced themselves that CDPR are working on putting out fires at the moment, but will get cracking on improving the game once it's stable for everyone and they've finished the obviously-temporary animations and scripting that were left in.

There's been nothing in their communications and attitude that would lead you to believe they've got any plans other than fixing it up until people stop complaining, then rolling out the DLC to keep the game in the news until the multiplayer comes out, which will be their main focus as the microtransactions will be their cash cow for the next few years. Anything beyond that will be left to the modding community.

It's not hard to imagine a future where these games are released as a bare-bones engine with assets and a rough plot, with everything else left to amateurs to add over time. "Well, we never actually promised that you'd be able to drive the cars outside of cut scenes..."

Baldurs Gate 3 - pay £50 for an actual alpha demo. Hope the studio use the money to actually finish the game.

There are some poor precedents being set in modern gaming.

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2 minutes ago, GiGi said:

Baldurs Gate 3 - pay £50 for an actual alpha demo. Hope the studio use the money to actually finish the game.

There are some poor precedents being set in modern gaming.

My knowledge of Baldur's Gate 3 amounts to knowing that it's being made, I'm afraid. Will have to look that up.

If it's a Kickstarter or Early Access-style situation, I guess the argument will always be that if the developers don't ask for money up front from the buyers, the game won't be made, but I'm not convinced that most people are aware that they really are taking an absolute punt on getting anything back for their money at all. I've put money into a few of these things myself, some of which have been massively delayed and there's always a shrill chorus who appear to be delighted with the idea that the game will never be finished. All of the developers I've invested in have posted regular progress updates and have either completed their game - one of which didn't turn out to be as good an idea as everyone originally thought - or are still working towards releasing a final product (one for about five years now). Unless it's an obvious scam, you have to assume you're investing in the people, with the game being a lovely cherry on the top, because there's absolutely no guarantee that you'll ever get it.

The Baldur's Gate series sold millions of copies, so that does feel a bit like EA announcing that they'll start work on a new Mass Effect game if ten million people give them $60 before they start. But they might not finish, and they can't guarantee that, even if they do, they won't sack it off to concentrate on FIFA before rushing out something they put together from scratch in eighteen months. Again. But then, that's what everyone already does with the pre-ordering, so...maybe it's not so far-fetched. You can guarantee they've looked at it as a model for future developments.

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Started playing this again after a break, just at the start of act 2. On ps4 but haven't had anything game breaking yet, couple of minor bugs. 

The inventory system seems quite clunky compared to TW3 and crafting seems similarly redundant with the "do Mission - > loot weapons /armour from enemies - > sell surplus ones - > buy better from vendor" cycle. 

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That's me finally done. Not massively impressed with the ending I got and, having looked at the other possible endings, I think I was hoping for the possibility for something a bit more radical to happen. But it's not bad - nothing like Mass Effect 3 levels of awfulness - I just didn't feel that the results matched up terribly well with what my character had been doing.

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I'd been getting on pretty well with Keanu, and we'd started to like each other, so when he was adamant that the best option was for him to take over and have another pop at Arasaka, I went with it. That was fine, until we got to the point where V finds out she'll only have six months to live if she stays in her body, as her brain's already been sculpted too far towards hosting Johnny's consciousness. V wants Johnny to take over and I figure Johnny would probably take the option to get eaten by Alt and let V have her remaining time. Only V goes apeshit at Johnny and acts as though she's never liked him, but doesn't want the guilt of his sacrifice - maybe she's just trying to get him to change his mind, but it wasn't a very pleasant parting, and felt like it was meant for a playthrough with a more antagonistic relationship between the two.

Anyway, we fast forward a few months, and V's been neglecting her relationship with Judy to continue as a merc, and has a big unspecified job planned, resulting in V IN SPAAAACE! Only Judy's had enough of the city and...V just lets her go. Apparently this is based entirely on whether you allow Johnny to take on Arasaka, or if you do it yourself with Panam and her nomad army. If you choose the latter, V isn't such a dick and chooses to spend her remaining time with her woman. Just a very odd consequence of that choice, and dissonant with how I'd been playing the character up to that point.

Overall, a good game, worth the money I paid for it, and definitely worth buying at 50% off, which I hear it's already available for in some places. If you only tend to play through these games once, give it a year or so as, despite not personally finding many gamebreaking bugs, it's absolutely chock full of "will this do?" moments where scripting and presentation are completely unpolished.

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I've been playing about with it on the new PC just to play it on the pretty settings and I'm getting some really immersion-breaking texture and particle bugs. Walking around Japan Town with Takemura and his jacket is doing cartwheels around the market independent of the man.

No doubt their latest botched patch has broken more than it fixed.

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On 26/01/2021 at 12:15, GiGi said:

I've been playing about with it on the new PC just to play it on the pretty settings and I'm getting some really immersion-breaking texture and particle bugs. Walking around Japan Town with Takemura and his jacket is doing cartwheels around the market independent of the man.

No doubt their latest botched patch has broken more than it fixed.

Oh, there's a lot of that. The wean was in stitches watching me play quite often. Things in NPC's hands seem to be a problem during conversations - stuff they're holding will get stuck in their hand after they're supposed to have put it down, or float around in mid-air. I think that stroll with Takemura is particularly problematic - with me, he got stuck on something at the start of the scene, and everything after that was fucked; facing the wrong way, leaning on non-existent railings, suddenly T-posing and teleporting off to where he was actually supposed to be...marvellous stuff.

For CDPR to claim that their QA department didn't tell them about this stuff before launch is laughable.

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Just had my first blue screen, about 30 minutes into a main story mission I'd been stealthing the f**k out of. 

I'm sure there will be a checkpoint not too far back but still shouldn't happen and I can't be arsed reloading tonight. 

On the plus side the billboard advert for Milfguard made me laugh as a nod to the Witcher. 

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They really did just stuff the car buying in to stop you ending up with a huge bank balance and nothing to spend it on.

Jackie's bike is the best vehicle in the game IMO, but you can also get the two best cars in the game for free, if you know where to look. Everything else is shit. What a waste of time.

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I was about to ask what game has the best economy but that’s so boring I had to go lie down
It'll be German. They even include turn their porn games into economic business simulators.

According to a mate.
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28 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said:

In my work we still have this game off the shelfs. Only one. Presume this can't ever go back on the shelves 

Do you work in retail? You can still buy it from third parties but Sony and Microsoft haven't allowed back on their store AFAIK.

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12 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

Oft. That is wild. Would love to hear more. Did a bunch of stores send their physical stock back? 

This I don't know. We are keeping hold of it until "further instructions". Most items get dealt with fairly quickly but this has been sometime.

May chase it up on Thursday just out of curiosity 

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44 minutes ago, Robin.Hood said:

This I don't know. We are keeping hold of it until "further instructions". Most items get dealt with fairly quickly but this has been sometime.

May chase it up on Thursday just out of curiosity 

I went and checked the PS store there and it's still unavailable.

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It's really not fixed, so I'm not surprised that Sony haven't allowed it back in their store. It's seems like it's so broken on the older consoles that I'll be impressed if they don't give up at some point.

@Robin.Hood - any chance the staff will eventually be allowed to take them home? I'd imagine you're right, they won't be wanting to put the original release version back out on the shelves.

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4 minutes ago, BFTD said:

It's really not fixed, so I'm not surprised that Sony haven't allowed it back in their store. It's seems like it's so broken on the older consoles that I'll be impressed if they don't give up at some point.

@Robin.Hood - any chance the staff will eventually be allowed to take them home? I'd imagine you're right, they won't be wanting to put the original release version back out on the shelves.

Nah we wouldnt get to take them home, for retailers to get their money back they need to send the items back for any product withdrawl, or at worst they will be charged for the number of copies they don't send back

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15 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said:

Nah we wouldnt get to take them home, for retailers to get their money back they need to send the items back for any product withdrawl, or at worst they will be charged for the number of copies they don't send back

Yup the latter is certainly fact.....  never usually have a huge amount of epws. Usually we would just destroy them ( throw them in bin) pending on the product...

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