suds999 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 How come I can't watch football on a Saturday but this is ok at a stock car meeting in Lochgelly, Scotland? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Anti football government couldn't give a toss tbh, looks like they're all wearing masks and socially distanced. I could understand if people weren't allowed into pubs, shops, this is why people are getting angry. If people are sensible I'm sure up to 300+ can be workable around the grounds. Trouble is,just 1 positive at a game and the rulers go berserk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanton Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Stocks are considered an amateur sport, same issues happened in Speedway , car racing ok , Speedway bikes no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds999 Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 To be fair they talk a good game, pre book tickets, temp check on entrance & must wear a mask. But the reality is everyone doing what they want with no stewarding or any pretence of social distancing. Can't believe football crowds at our level couldn't be organised better than this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Heid Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 The solutions being suggested are not joined up.A one size fits all approach doesn't work.To have games at this level played behind closed doors is pointless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said: Anti football government couldn't give a toss tbh, looks like they're all wearing masks and socially distanced. I could understand if people weren't allowed into pubs, shops, this is why people are getting angry. If people are sensible I'm sure up to 300+ can be workable around the grounds. Trouble is,just 1 positive at a game and the rulers go berserk. As far as I can see most people in the photos above are not wearing masks. I would be raging at such non-mask wearers putting me and others at risk if that happened at a football match I went to in the next few months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Andy groundhopper said: Anti football government couldn't give a toss tbh, This is just a persecution complex. Why would the government be "anti-football"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, GordonS said: This is just a persecution complex. Why would the government be "anti-football"? I think it’s a fair point, but I believe that the government are anti-football fan as opposed to anti football. I can understand that stance to some extent given the probability of football fans in big numbers being unable to behave themselves. However it’s an absolute nonsense in the lower leagues or non-league level especially when there are means of controlling the numbers if they’re worried about the potential for a mass of bored neutrals showing up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Stock Car fans are universally idiots. Allowing them to meet in crowds at this time is madness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirktv Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Write to your msp, only way to change this is to pressure them. beyond belief, you can go to pub park swimming, stick cars but can’t stand distanced with 200 folk at a football ground. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, rockson said: As far as I can see most people in the photos above are not wearing masks. I would be raging at such non-mask wearers putting me and others at risk if that happened at a football match I went to in the next few months. I've been at a few northern league matches and being out in the open mask wearing fans were few and far between. You might need to do something about that rage if you fancy a match and spectating be allowed back at non league grounds in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Possible that the government are anti football fan then, haven't exactly covered ourselves in glory lately - thanks Leeds,Liverpool, yesterday Sunderland fans were at Oxford I believe, just stay away please. Haven't seen any mask wearing at the games I've seen so far-apart from myself, most fans acting like normal. Maybe that's why we are getting a hard time from those above ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 A lot of blame directed at the government on this, but for me the blame lies with the JRG and also the club's themselves. Nicola Sturgeon has enough on her plate just now, without worrying about whether there should or should not be crowds at this level of football (I doubt she's even aware of its existence). The JRG, and even more so, the clubs should be lobbying loudly and using social media to create a stir - Basically following the example that was set by clubs at a similar level down south. If I recall correctly, it was actually a mistake when clubs down south initially weren't letting fans in. I'd be willing to bet it's the same up here. If clubs want fans back they should screaming and shouting for it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Correct,loads of games down south yesterday, South Shields getting the maximum 600 at their game,brilliant. Seeing as clubs need fans and players probably need football's wages - I'm surprised the clubs haven't been kicking and screaming to restart. Once they've played 4 friendlies safely,the October restart gets more positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Andy groundhopper said: Correct,loads of games down south yesterday, South Shields getting the maximum 600 at their game,brilliant. Seeing as clubs need fans and players probably need football's wages - I'm surprised the clubs haven't been kicking and screaming to restart. Once they've played 4 friendlies safely,the October restart gets more positive. Brilliant for the 600 aye but their average attendance last season was 3 times that. A lot of disappointments I'd imagine though the club did stream the match. This is where its gonnae hit the bigger clubs. It's a farce nobody can watch an EOSFL match where only a certain amount of fans are allowed in and would easily social distance but what about the other bigger clubs that have season ticket holders that are greater than the capacity allowed ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Andy groundhopper said: Possible that the government are anti football fan then, haven't exactly covered ourselves in glory lately - thanks Leeds,Liverpool, yesterday Sunderland fans were at Oxford I believe, just stay away please. Haven't seen any mask wearing at the games I've seen so far-apart from myself, most fans acting like normal. Maybe that's why we are getting a hard time from those above ? As alluded to in my previous post on this thread, I believe “anti-football-fan” to be the government stance. Now as much as the government are a bunch of thick, incompetent morons who should be tried, found guilty and jailed for gross negligence; Deep down I think we’ve all known this whole time that large groups of football fans just simply cannot be trusted to comply with rules and behave, so I don’t blame the government in that respect. Away from football I am fairly confident a lot of those still showing up at games will be behaving irresponsibly and spreading the covid elsewhere too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Steven W said: A lot of blame directed at the government on this, but for me the blame lies with the JRG and also the club's themselves. Nicola Sturgeon has enough on her plate just now, without worrying about whether there should or should not be crowds at this level of football (I doubt she's even aware of its existence). The JRG, and even more so, the clubs should be lobbying loudly and using social media to create a stir - Basically following the example that was set by clubs at a similar level down south. If I recall correctly, it was actually a mistake when clubs down south initially weren't letting fans in. I'd be willing to bet it's the same up here. If clubs want fans back they should screaming and shouting for it. Agreed and the longer they’re not letting fans in the quicker the likelihood of smaller clubs going into the red or even bust. Yesterday I seen them talking about the costs of covid tests for those smaller clubs who’ll have Scottish Cup games. £4K I think was the figure mentioned to get a squad tested. Some smaller clubs would be needing a few weeks of gate money to pay those sort of testing costs just to play 1 match. Edited September 20, 2020 by 8MileBU 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 11 hours ago, falkirktv said: Write to your msp, only way to change this is to pressure them. beyond belief, you can go to pub park swimming, stick cars but can’t stand distanced with 200 folk at a football ground. Mathison is alright but hes a shitebag to stand up to sturgeon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, 8MileBU said: Agreed and the longer they’re not letting fans in the quicker the likelihood of smaller clubs going into the red or even bust. Yesterday I seen them talking about the costs of covid tests for those smaller clubs who’ll have Scottish Cup games. £4K I think was the figure mentioned to get a squad tested. Some smaller clubs would be needing a few weeks of gate money to pay those sort of testing costs just to play 1 match. The majority of smaller clubs are just going to pocket money from the Scottish Cup from being excluded. It's probably easier for them going into abeyance/non playing membership for a year as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkirktv Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Only if you draw a spl club, by that time prize money will be 40k be worth it then imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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