RiG Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The CEC is looking to bring forward proposals for a North - South tram line in Edinburgh as well as looking at reopening the southern hub rail line to passenger traffic. https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/20704555.edinburgh-city-council-launch-1bn-plans-build-north-south-tram-route/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Successive Embra Clowncils have made it a joke city IMO. What do so many cities on the continent do to make their management and maintenance appear so superior? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The south sub thing would have long since happened by now if it made any sense but if both Labour and the SNP are supportive as the article suggests sounds like more of the original tram plan is probably happening: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Elixir said: Clowncils 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sortmeout Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 20/01/2022 at 19:22, Hedgecutter said: In the case of the Barra one, good luck to anybody attempting to drill a multi-mile long tunnel through one of the hardest bedrock units in Europe. Realistically needs a bridge imo. 7 months have passed and I would like to know how you know this information? What does the average person need to study to get to know this kind of detail? Geology? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sortmeout said: 7 months have passed and I would like to know how you know this information? What does the average person need to study to get to know this kind of detail? Geology? It's an (engineering) geology thing. No idea why I said that though. The extremely hard basement rock seen at surface of the Western Isles & Inner Hebrides (that part being true enough) is overlain by softer rocks / sediments once you get out into the Minch and Sea of the Hebrides. However... the softer overburden there consist of unconsolidated 'ice age' sediments underlain by a serious thickness of Jurassic mudstone rocks (an offshore borehole drilled some 15 miles east of Barra found these to be at least 2500m thick, i.e. about two Ben Nevis' worth underground), which are structurally unstable and most likely of little use for tunnel construction. This is completely unlike the hardy lavas* of the Faroes and structurally-sound chalk of the Channel Tunnel, the latter of which was built to a maximum depth of 75m below the sea-bed. * whilst there is no onshore shortage of lava on Skye & Mull, these aren't present across the relevant offshore areas. Edited August 24, 2022 by Hedgecutter 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Driving along the M9 the other day and passed roadworks. Seems they are building slip roads on and off the motorway in the middle of nowhere. I googled why they were doing this. Apparently to connect Winchburgh to the M9 (population: 5 sheep and a couple of weirdos). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Driving along the M9 the other day and passed roadworks. Seems they are building slip roads on and off the motorway in the middle of nowhere. I googled why they were doing this. Apparently to connect Winchburgh to the M9 (population: 5 sheep and a couple of weirdos). That might be the population now but they are meant to be building something like 3,000 - 4,000 new homes there right next to the motorway so they need to upgrade the access from the M9. I think there was meant to be a new railway station included as well but I'm not sure about that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 On 24/08/2022 at 00:54, Hedgecutter said: It's an (engineering) geology thing. No idea why I said that though. The extremely hard basement rock seen at surface of the Western Isles & Inner Hebrides (that part being true enough) is overlain by softer rocks / sediments once you get out into the Minch and Sea of the Hebrides. However... the softer overburden there consist of unconsolidated 'ice age' sediments underlain by a serious thickness of Jurassic mudstone rocks (an offshore borehole drilled some 15 miles east of Barra found these to be at least 2500m thick, i.e. about two Ben Nevis' worth underground), which are structurally unstable and most likely of little use for tunnel construction. This is completely unlike the hardy lavas* of the Faroes and structurally-sound chalk of the Channel Tunnel, the latter of which was built to a maximum depth of 75m below the sea-bed. * whilst there is no onshore shortage of lava on Skye & Mull, these aren't present across the relevant offshore areas. FFS @Sortmeout everyone knows this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 4 hours ago, scottsdad said: Driving along the M9 the other day and passed roadworks. Seems they are building slip roads on and off the motorway in the middle of nowhere. I googled why they were doing this. Apparently to connect Winchburgh to the M9 (population: 5 sheep and a couple of weirdos). Winchburgh is where my MiL lives and the construction that is going on there is unbelievable. They have built 2 high schools (to keep up the "what school did you go to" divisions), a primary school, sports centre, country park and as @RiG says 1000s of houses. Winchburgh is pretty much unrecognisable from what it was 7 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Seems to be some concern over whether the railway station will happen for Winchburgh: https://www.scottishconstructionnow.com/articles/council-concerned-that-winchburgh-railway-station-may-not-materialise 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 There's absolutely no justification for building a train station on the fastest route between the two largest cities in the country, just to serve a glorified council estate in West Lothian. While we're dealing with nonsense plastic settlements, demolish Bishopton and make the inhabitants slither to Glasgow instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I'm sure I could look it up but I wonder how many new homes have been built in Kirkliston and Winchburgh in the last 10-15 years, it must be thousands. I have family in that area and am there all the time, the growth of Winchburgh is particularly fast, it must be double the size by now. I didn't realise that was what the slip road on the M9 was being built for but it would ease the traffic which must be pretty bad on the roads in and out of the town. Kirkliston traffic is terrible at rush hour, although of course building commuter towns does tend to mean people have to commute. A train station would be good to, in theory, ease congestion but I assume the disruption would be huge and I'm unsure how much it'd be used by commuters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I hadn't realised that there was plans in the 80s (or maybe 70s) for a freight line between the West Highland Line and Pitlochry. I do think it's strange that aside from Inverness to Kyle and WHL from Glasgow there isn't really any connection across Scotland above the Central Belt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, virginton said: There's absolutely no justification for building a train station on the fastest route between the two largest cities in the country, just to serve a glorified council estate in West Lothian. While we're dealing with nonsense plastic settlements, demolish Bishopton and make the inhabitants slither to Glasgow instead. "glorified council estate" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, strichener said: "glorified council estate" Careful now, he's read a book you know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Highland Capital said: I hadn't realised that there was plans in the 80s (or maybe 70s) for a freight line between the West Highland Line and Pitlochry. I do think it's strange that aside from Inverness to Kyle and WHL from Glasgow there isn't really any connection across Scotland above the Central Belt. It's only strange insomuch ad our whole land ownership structure outside the central belt is strange. Half the stops north of Perth only exist as payment in kind for building on somebody's private estate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 West Lothian Council’s frustrated that their attempts to turn Winchburgh into “The Croy of the East” aren’t going smoothly https://www.westlothian.gov.uk/article/74480/Winchburgh-train-station-update 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Actually what’s the point of Croy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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