Casagolda Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Too early to call this a season defining week? Even with our poor start, it feels like the vast majority are still behind Robinson- except the usual suspects that want him sacked after every defeat. All we need is a win to kick start our season etc. A defeat here though, potentially followed up by us getting papped out of Europe by Coleraine next Thursday and I think the the tide would begin to turn. For this, lets not have Grimshaw at lwb or O’Hara in the holding midfield role please. Also, if we could actually score a goal that would be lovely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Not too early at all. Ironically thanks to Coleriane the Europa draw has been kind to us. We have a better chance to get through to next round than were we unseeded as was expected up until the last minute of the last round. Absolutely Coleraine will prove a difficult task just as the Czech team were the other night. However they are part time and if we play anywhere near to our abilities we should progress. Our league form has actually been OK for the most part. We certainly merit a few more points than we have. That said this is another home game v a team of similar standing / standards and to lose this and suddenly we start to look like Hearts. Conversely as the Saints fans know they had an horrendous start to last season and still managed to get top 6. But we could do with 3 points or 1 but with a decent performance to take into the Coleraine tie with some confidence. Edited September 9, 2020 by welldaft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 If none of our left sided players are returning is Grimshaw at lwb not the lesser of two evils (if we play that formation). I thought the reports of him at the Celtic game were relatively positive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Casagolda said: Too early to call this a season defining week? Even with our poor start, it feels like the vast majority are still behind Robinson- except the usual suspects that want him sacked after every defeat. All we need is a win to kick start our season etc. A defeat here though, potentially followed up by us getting papped out of Europe by Coleraine next Thursday and I think the the tide would begin to turn. For this, lets not have Grimshaw at lwb or O’Hara in the holding midfield role please. Also, if we could actually score a goal that would be lovely. I think it was @thisGRAEME who was talking on The Terrace the other week about Hibs start to the season echoing us last season in so much as fine margins games were going their way. Winning a game like their 1-0 against United that would otherwise have been a draw (see us up at Perth for example - Cole misses a sitter, scores a tap in and St Johnstone miss a penalty). There's a lot in that IMO. It feels like our season so for is very much the flip of that. We've not necessarily been awful, we've controlled large parts of games, passed the ball but teams have sat in and we've not really been able to break them down. Cue Accies scoring with one of only two shots on target while David Turnbull's pinging as many shots on their goal himself as the entire Accies team combined (8). In terms of sliding doors moments we've seen Donnelly miss a penalty when we're 1-0 down, White had an equaliser ruled out against Utd and a goal that would have put us 1-0 up against Hibs called off because Seedorf was 'interfering with play' - goals change games and all that. Meanwhile Gallagher and Lamie are conceding utterly needless penalties in fine margins games and giving the opposition a helping hand - literally in Lamie's case. Then add in injuries to McGinley and Donnelly plus Lang's 2 game suspension after his sending off in the opening game along with the David Turnbull Distraction and it feels like not only have we not been getting the breaks we were August - January last season we've also had to be putting fires out all over the place. That's before you even get to players brought in to play a very specific system wildly underperforming. Even the fact that we finally win a game 5-1 and our next fixture is Celtic at Parkhead seemed like a karmic boot in the baws. Ultimately Robinson's got the the point where he's ditched the 433 and changed shape which is at least acknowledging there was an issue with teams easily shutting us down out wide. That's something I suppose. McGinley making an appearance in the training ground footage the other week was unexpected and might mean that the Grimshaw at LWB experiment doesn't need to be a regular thing (albeit I thought he was OK against Celtic). All that said is really just a long-winded way of saying "a win and some goals would be nice please". Edited September 9, 2020 by capt_oats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 It feels like a must win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewh Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 league win in 15 is it? I’m not superstitious. Those kind of stats don’t mean much but I’ll be happy to see that go to 15+1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Gamepass bought [emoji106] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 The battle of the 7:00am, single tweet, launch of a kit that had been leaked a couple of days earlier versus brand strategy brochures. The current run is dreadful (think it's actually 1 win in 16 games against Premiership opposition) but Robinson has turned it round before and can wear that badge. In fact, he probably does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Are Motherwell likely to continue with this 3-5-2, with a right footed LWB? No idea what to think of this game. Feels like Motherwell are due a result, and we've been fairly sketchy until the demolition of a St Mirren side who were all over the place. Hoping we start similar to St Mirren, but mot sure how you set up. Ideally its May/Hendry up front, and McCann and probably Davidson in CM. Then have a choice of Wotherspoon, Conway, or MOH to play somewhere in midfield/attack. Wotherspoon done well against St Mirren but I think we'll need Davidson for set pieces etc. One massive positive for us is the defence, aside from the first two games where the midfield clearly weren't sure of the system yet, they've been fairly comfortable. Tempting fate, but dont think there's a Motherwell attacker that should hugely worry them. Edited September 9, 2020 by RandomGuy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Are Motherwell likely to continue with this 3-5-2, with a right footed LWB? Depends on McGinley really. The only reason we've been playing a right footed player in there is because he and Carroll have been injured and having Lamie at left back meant playing a right footed CB (Mugabi) on the left side of the CB pair which caused him all sorts of problems with distribution. It's not been some wacky tactical wheeze on Robinson's part. McGinley played left back against County, looked alright and was promptly ruled out with a groin injury. He made an appearance in the footage from the training ground that was posted on the socials the other week. Whether that means he's actually available though....who knows? Edited September 9, 2020 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Click - still waiting for us to do this, could this be the week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: It's not been some wacky tactical wheeze on Robinson's part. Aye never meant it to sound like I was suggesting it was, tbh, was just curious. Makes it easier to defend against if your backline are all right footed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Aye never meant it to sound like I was suggesting it was, tbh, was just curious. Makes it easier to defend against if your backline are all right footed. Aye. Stevie Hammell's cursed amulet is back in a big way. We almost got a full season out of Jake Carroll - who had been low key v.good but he popped his achilles in the cup game against St Mirren and is still rehabbing. Charlie Dunne hasn't kicked a ball since last summer and McGinley lasted one competitive game before his groin knack. Liam Donnelly was supposed to have been our Tait-like option for cover in emergencies but he's now out for months as he's fucked his knee and is currently cutting about with crutches and a knee brace - which has also meant O'Hara's having to play as a holding mid that doesn't really suit him. The only fit left sided defenders we have are Ricki Lamie and Yusuf Hussain who's 19, never played a first team game and is a centre half anyway. Max Johnston played a few of the bounce games at left back but not only is he 16 he's actually a right back. All in all it's pretty frustrating tbh. Edited September 9, 2020 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Aye. Stevie Hammell's cursed amulet is back in a big way. We almost got a full season out of Jake Carroll - who had been low key v.good but he popped his achilles in the cup game against St Mirren and is still rehabbing. Charlie Dunne hasn't kicked a ball since last summer and McGinley lasted one competitive game before his groin knack. Liam Donnelly was supposed to have been our Tait-like option for cover in emergencies but he's now out for months as he's fucked his knee and is currently cutting about with crutches and a knee brace - which has also meant O'Hara's having to play as a holding mid that doesn't really suit him. The only fit left sided defenders we have are Ricki Lamie and Yusuf Hussain who's 19, never played a first team game and is a centre half anyway. Max Johnston played a few of the bounce games at left back but not only is he 16 he's actually a right back. All in all it's pretty frustrating tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18May1991 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Comfortable home win. By 3. No, f**k it, by 4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Has this match ever been called the Off The Ball derby? Asking for a friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Let's just go mental. Unleash Project: Barry Maguire Midfielder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Motherwell by a big margin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Motherwell by a big margin. This, but only in terms of corners. For goals... Motherwell 0-1 St. Johnstone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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