renton Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, G51 said: Tidal turbines are the most predictable energy source out there, including fossil fuels. The reason is that they operate in conjunction with the tide, which we can calculate. Probably not including fossil or nuclear, to be fair, and while predictable it's still a variable load in the way traditional boiling water plants simply aren't. With the variability comes the need to store energy for when it is required. As I said, it's a far more complex problem than installing capacity, having a grid that can manage myriad sources, getting the load where it is required... that's the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, renton said: It's the supporting jobs that will be created that are more interesting to me than the actual on site staff. You already have Orbex in Forres, for example, companies lile that bring high skill jobs to the North, if those companies are successful they bring in other support companies as well. That then leads to service job sectors as well. Those are included in the 254 Highland jobs. This isn't really the thread for this discussion to be honest, but rScotland's ability to provide renewable energy relies almost completely on the resource rich region in the north. It's time H&I used this to either leverage a better deal within Scotland, or simply determine it's own future. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, renton said: Probably not including fossil or nuclear, to be fair, and while predictable it's still a variable load in the way traditional boiling water plants simply aren't. With the variability comes the need to store energy for when it is required. As I said, it's a far more complex problem than installing capacity, having a grid that can manage myriad sources, getting the load where it is required... that's the issue. I'd argue it's more reliable than those, because they often have no redundancy - if the nuclear reactor is shut down for whatever reason, then there's nothing coming out of that site. Fossil fuels the same, when you have to shut it down for maintenance it's completely off. With tidal, you simply lift the turbine out of the sea while the others keep generating (I'm simplifying it, but you see where I'm coming from). Energy storage is absolutely crucial, you're right. And it is more complex - but not all that complex. What do we have a lot of in Scotland (particularly the Highlands) ? Hills and water. What's the most proven form of energy storage? Hydroelectric. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Na. We literally just had a worldwide experiment in everyone doing f**k all for ages and it barely dented emissions. Capitalism & particularly the barely regulated type we have now is the cause.I'm sorry, but no.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/global-co2-emissions-saw-record-drop-during-pandemic-lockdown/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, GordonS said: I think it's really easy to disagree with them, everyone moans about what they get from government and I think people in the Highlands and Islands get a lot more attention and resources than those in the Central Belt. The Western Isles has a population smaller than Wishaw and it has three airports and four ferry links, all hugely subsidised,. and massively higher spending per person. It also gets more European funding than almost anywhere in the Central Belt. They get more attention than other rural parts of the country like Galloway. Everyone seems to think that they're getting a raw deal but I don't see it. How many railway stations and motorway connections has it got? Hard to dock a ferry in Wishaw... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, coprolite said: Global warming is a global collective action problem. We need a one world socialist government to fix it. That's never going to happen so the next best option is to work out how to deal with the consequences. I'm thinking that stockpiling canned food, ammunition and fuel in a high altitude bunker might be the way to go. You'd also need a gun(s). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: You'd also need a gun(s). It's this sort of oversight that will see me eaten by cannibals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just wanted to post my favourite video again 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 From the thread title alone you just knew this thread would be catnip for the unhinged. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 This level of consumerism and consumption isn’t sustainable and humans will eventually suffer for it. I’ll be dead by then so I’m not giving a f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) @G51 How would independence for H&I prevent depopulation? And how could more be done by current government to encourage more people to stay in H&I without a level of investment which would severely impact the more populated parts of the country? Not a dig, genuinely curious. I've had a wee look but I'm struggling to find examples of places in europe which have been able to square the circle with remoter areas Edited September 2, 2020 by Genuine Hibs Fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Just wanted to post my favourite video again Thank you. Just, Thank. You. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, NotThePars said: Just wanted to post my favourite video again If I end up with Shapiro videos in my recommendations I'm coming for you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Ben "let's just say" Shapiro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Are you always so boring? Yes. I deal in a fact-based reality. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: How many railway stations and motorway connections has it got? Hard to dock a ferry in Wishaw... Ferries, harbours, airports and planes are a wee bit more expensive than Wishaw train station. There's no part of Scotland where folk are sitting saying "d'ye know what? I think we do alright for public money here." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: If I end up with Shapiro videos in my recommendations I'm coming for you I watched a video of two professional violin players critiquing Ben Shapiro's violin playing and now I get loads of Ben Shapiro related stuff. Don't do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Are you always so boring? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, G51 said: You'd have to be on acid to think that the H&I gets a good deal, for lots of the reasons I gave above in addition to many others. If the H&I gets such a good deal, how come people are being forced to leave it in order to make a living? I didn't say H&I gets a good deal. I said it doesn't get a worse deal than other places. The idea that it's overlooked in favour of somewhere like Possil is just wrong. Folk are forced to leave everywhere to make a living. The problems of depopulation in remote rural areas are little to do with public money or government attention, they're to do with housing and the availability of private sector careers. They're to do with a lack of social opportunities for young people, who are less likely to move back these days than in the past. The H&I already has a disproportionately high number of public sector jobs, in health and local government. Trunk roads, schools and community facilities in those areas are in better nick than elsewhere in Scotland. Take one example - Shetland has 8 swimming pools for 23,000 people! Depopulation of rural areas is happening all over the developed world and only very rich places like Norway seem to be able to do anything about it. The H&I also doesn't get enough immigration - without that, Glasgow would have experienced depopulation too. Folk all over Scotland have been telling themselves they get a raw deal for so long that nobody ever questions it. Edinburgh complains about the cost of all its visitors and events, Aberdeen complain they get money off because of their high council tax take, every local authority with high levels of deprivation complains about poverty, even the richest like Shetland complain and a group of councillors there were talking about Faroes-style autonomy this week. In reality, I don't think it's credible to claim the H&I gets a raw deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: If I end up with Shapiro videos in my recommendations I'm coming for you I barely knew he was until Andrew Neil OWNED HIM! (HTH) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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