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19 minutes ago, Angusfifer said:

Not looking good for ould Planet Earth. 

Pesky human beings... 

 

4 minutes ago, bennett said:

The planets fine, though some warmer weather would be nice.

 

Agree with zippy's first bit. The planet will be fine. It's only a huge number of species, including our own, that are in trouble. 

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We all want to change the planet for the better but at the same time consume and use resources at an unsustainable rate.
Oceans will rise, famine, more and more covid or worse type diseases, mass animal extinction, compete destruction of the Congo and Amazon, oceans full of plastic.
Really can't see any way out of it unless we get a mass extinction event.
Dinosaurs lived for 165 million years and we've been around for only half a million and destroyed the earth in a few hundred years. We really have distorted opinions about how great we are and that we will be able to fix everything.
No chance, India, China and brasil will be the end of it.

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People have more of a choice in this than we give ourselves credit for. We just choose not to use it.

What political party do you vote for? What are their environmental policies? Do you even know? Do they give those policies any priority or just lip-service?

Do you vote or campaign on the issue of global poverty and the responsibility of the rich world to provide proper aid to the poor world? A huge cause of pollution is that dirty industries and illegal pollution is the only option for some poor countries.

What do you typically eat? What is the impact on the environment of the source of your food? Can you change that?

Do you drive? Why? Some people need to. Do you? If you do sometimes need to drive, do you need to drive as often as you do? Or are you just a lazy b*****d? Do you vote or campaign on infrastructure and public transport as a global issue? Because they both are.

Where do you go on holiday? Why?

How is your home powered? What are the alternatives? How often do you waste energy in your home?

How often do you mention environmental issues to friends and acquaintances the way you might with other important issues? Do you ever question people on this? If not, why not?

It's true that there's much your average punter cannot change, for now. But that's because we live in a culture that simply doesn't take the climate seriously. The only way to change that is to take it seriously.

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2 minutes ago, MixuFruit said:

Na. We literally just had a worldwide experiment in everyone doing f**k all for ages and it barely dented emissions. Capitalism & particularly the barely regulated type we have now is the cause.

Of course it is. But taking that as a starting point won't work.

If people don't care about the low level stuff, they'll not notice the high level stuff.

Bottom line is that people don't care and won't care until it's too late and the effects are heavily upon us. Sadly, it's a lost battle. Capitalism has won.

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People have more of a choice in this than we give ourselves credit for. We just choose not to use it.
What political party do you vote for? What are their environmental policies? Do you even know? Do they give those policies any priority or just lip-service?
Do you vote or campaign on the issue of global poverty and the responsibility of the rich world to provide proper aid to the poor world? A huge cause of pollution is that dirty industries and illegal pollution is the only option for some poor countries.
What do you typically eat? What is the impact on the environment of the source of your food? Can you change that?
Do you drive? Why? Some people need to. Do you? If you do sometimes need to drive, do you need to drive as often as you do? Or are you just a lazy b*****d? Do you vote or campaign on infrastructure and public transport as a global issue? Because they both are.
Where do you go on holiday? Why?
How is your home powered? What are the alternatives? How often do you waste energy in your home?
How often do you mention environmental issues to friends and acquaintances the way you might with other important issues? Do you ever question people on this? If not, why not?
It's true that there's much your average punter cannot change, for now. But that's because we live in a culture that simply doesn't take the climate seriously. The only way to change that is to take it seriously.
The governments need to lead but as said in a capitalist consumer driven society it creates selfish interests and consumerism.
Nothing will change until places start to flood or people starve.
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