Jeff Venom Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Nope I didn't read it, does the content of the article invalidate my question? I think it is fairly obvious that someone in her position, with the privileges that go with it can easily lose touch with the working people. I don't see anything coming from the SNP that would suggest that they are the party of the working class.She may well be; big Dougie using the hate crime act and Covid passports for football fans as reasons for her losing touch with working classes is a curious attack line to take. Sent from my LLD-L31 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Is she not?Did you even read the article? Sent from my LLD-L31 using Tapatalk Nope I didn't read it[emoji23]Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 When I think of people being in touch with the working class, Douglas Ross is the first name I think of. "These were men wi a trade" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 https://twitter.com/STVNews/status/1444734434096336896?s=19 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I know strichener fucking LOVES being a contrarian on every single subject, but white knighting the bastion of the working class - universal credit slashing Douglas Ross - is really digging deep. Nothing but respect for the commitment. Before the inevitable response, off the top of my head, some policies the SNP have enacted that benefit the working class:Free prescriptions, free higher education, no bedroom tax, free baby boxes, free bus travel for u22s, free sanitary products, funded childcare, child payment, building affordable homes.They’re far from perfect, but to try and argue they’re not a / the party of the working class in Scotland when you consider the available alternatives, and the records of the available alternatives, is nonsense. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 40 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: They’re far from perfect, but to try and argue they’re not a / the party of the working class in Scotland when you consider the available alternatives, and the records of the available alternatives, is nonsense. The conclusion you should draw there is that there's no party of the working class. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, J_Stewart said: I know strichener fucking LOVES being a contrarian on every single subject, but white knighting the bastion of the working class - universal credit slashing Douglas Ross - is really digging deep. Nothing but respect for the commitment. Before the inevitable response, off the top of my head, some policies the SNP have enacted that benefit the working class: Free prescriptions, free higher education, no bedroom tax, free baby boxes, free bus travel for u22s, free sanitary products, funded childcare, child payment, building affordable homes. They’re far from perfect, but to try and argue they’re not a / the party of the working class in Scotland when you consider the available alternatives, and the records of the available alternatives, is nonsense. Aye it appears that you have a problem reading and understanding tense. We are speaking about the current leadership and about their current delivery program. I am particularly looking forward to their pledge for a public owned utility. We are getting progress on rent controls as a result of the agreement with the greens. Where are 130,000 green jobs that were promised by the SNP? Or how about 50,000 social houses. 2/3 of children living in poverty are in working households. Where is their enterprise policy? How can we improve drug outcomes when we cut funding? Money wasted hand over fist in economic incompetence. None of this nor the initial question is contrary, it just doesn't suit the audience. What policies do you see benefitting working class people and when can we expect them? One thing is for sure, if their history of drafting legislation is anything to go by then it will either get kicked out by the courts or kicked into the long grass when it becomes more complicated than the very limited talent can manage. Edited October 3, 2021 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Johnson does not give a f**k about what’s happening up here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 The only true working class party is me and the boys taking molly in the toilets at the miners club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, doulikefish said: https://twitter.com/STVNews/status/1444734434096336896?s=19 Sensational. Do you agree with your little pug faced tartan hatchet man that that bad Nicola is bad? "Whatever" Have you read or heard his speech? "No" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Johnson does not give a f**k about what’s happening up here He probably had to be told before that who Douglas Ross actually was. Tremendous. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 What a moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 They are the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party – but just how Scottish are they and what exactly are they for? Does their unionism constrain just how Scottish they can be to the extent that they are no more than a branch office of the party in London? A little history brings a measure of perspective. In 1955, they polled 50% of the popular vote. In an age of deference, a large section of the working class flocked to the Tories. The party of Anthony Eden and Harold MacMillan stood for the idea of ‘One Nation’ and a belief that politicians should govern for all and not sectional interests. Back then, the Tories built council houses. In fact, they built hundreds of thousands of them in the UK as a response to the post-war housing crisis. They embraced state intervention when necessary and accepted the market had its limitations. ‘Butskellism’ was a term that was coined to point to the narrow differences in approach between Tory chancellor Rab Butler and Labour leader Hugh Gaitskell. The post-war consensus on the state as an enabler was shattered by Margaret Thatcher, an ideological Conservative who cut back on trade union immunities, privatised state industries, liberalised markets and cut taxes. It was a full throttle assault on the pervasiveness of the state, or ‘socialism’ as she would call it. So what does this have to do with the Scottish Tories? Quite a lot actually. The One Nation Tories and the Thatcherites had different but clear philosophical approaches to politics. Their principles were discernible and you had a clear sense of where you stood with them. After 22 years of devolution, it is hard to define the philosophical approach of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. To be fair, managerialism doesn’t just affect the Tories. Labour-Liberal administrations were marked by pragmatism than by the pursuit of ideological holy grails and despite the Tory critique of the SNP, Nicola Sturgeon’s government has yet to taste, nevermind serve, the red meat of socialism. The general approach of all of the parties in the devolved era has been distinctly conservative. There has been no radical overhaul of the state. Vested interests still drive much of ministerial attitudes. Politicians live by the motto, ‘thou shalt not be unpopular’. The reason why the Scottish Tories should feel embarrassed by this state of affairs is that the parties of the centre-left will always tilt to the status quo in Scotland, particularly when they see it as their mission to defend the state, imperfections and all. In the devolved era, Tory leaders have lacked a radical cutting edge. David McLetchie was pretty right wing and yet he appeared apologetic. Annabel Goldie kept the show on the road by smothering the body politic in reasonableness. Ruth Davidson is defined more by her presentational skills than ideological anchors. And where fits Douglas Ross in the firmament? Your guess is as good as mine. ‘Feart to think’ The post-2014 electoral revival was born out of a frustration by many voters on the No side of the constitutional question. Independence has somewhat ironically been good for the Tories, endowing them with an electoral boost. Those voting for them are not necessarily instinctively Conservative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Perhaps the last ideological Scottish Tory was Mad Mickey Forsyth. There aren't really any equivalents of Ian Duncan Smith or John Redwood up here. Just a lot of inbred fermers, posh Yoons, Edinburgh lawyers, business chancers and spivs, patronising aristos and the occasional True Blue Gers fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Wee Dougal finds the word Porn offensive. Pretty petty thing to get offended by just after you have take £20 a week off the poorest in society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Thought Douglas seemed utterly deranged today and going after the rain strike seemed a very odd story to go after almost as if he had prepped for it and when the deal had gone through had no plan to change tact so had look like completely foolish, not for the first time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The boy's a thick arsehole. Rinsed again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peternapper Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Am glad they have removed any semblance of Dougie Ross having any part to play in Scotlands future by hiding his flag from him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Edited November 12, 2021 by Clown Job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus of the Mo Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 48 minutes ago, Clown Job said: He’ll get aff with it. Yoons always do. Then he will be a Lord, like Ruth, for stabbing the Scots in the back. Seen the daft Cnut on telly during the Euros, England Scotland game. Supporting England? He must be, he supports them politically. Sycophantic bully, used to bully lassies at the school. He just needs to know where he is in the pecking order, because he’s insecure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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