GordonS Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Or perhaps Nicola's popularity has increased within soft/non Indy contributors whilst a decrease among hard Indy. ...which would suggest the people you talk to are disproportionately hard indy and not representative of the country as a whole. Obviously we're all more likely to talk with people who are similar to us, that's why it's important to know that our everyday experiences carry biases and that polling, however flawed, is more reliable than the sum of our own anecdotes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, GordonS said: ...which would suggest the people you talk to are disproportionately hard indy and not representative of the country as a whole. Obviously we're all more likely to talk with people who are similar to us, that's why it's important to know that our everyday experiences carry biases and that polling, however flawed, is more reliable than the sum of our own anecdotes. What does polling have to do with what I originally replied to? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, GordonS said: You do realise that says more about the people you talk politics with than about Sturgeon, surely? Her favourability polling is insanely high. This works the other way too, for folk who say "I don't know anyone voting Tory". 3% less recognisable than Willie Rennie There isn't a Del Bosque Ooft big enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: 3% less recognisable than Willie Rennie There isn't a Del Bosque Ooft big enough. In fairness, Willie Rennie will have been a party leader for a pretty surprising 10 years this May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 https://twitter.com/PhantomPower14/status/1378681137007058952?s=19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 2 hours ago, GordonS said: In fairness, Willie Rennie will have been a party leader for a pretty surprising 10 years this May. That indicates a party in decline and stagnant in Scotland as an active thriving party would have had two or three ambitious leaders in that ten year period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 hours ago, GordonS said: You do realise that says more about the people you talk politics with than about Sturgeon, surely? Her favourability polling is insanely high. This works the other way too, for folk who say "I don't know anyone voting Tory". Nothing too surprising there thought I would have thought that Patrick Harvie would have polled better in the favourable section. Alex Salmond has taken a pounding though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 4 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: Nothing too surprising there thought I would have thought that Patrick Harvie would have polled better in the favourable section. He's gammon/feminist Kryptonite. I'm not particularly surprised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) Some Conservative activists have picked up leakage of their support to Mr Galloway's robust unionism and, wait for it, Alba. In both cases, it is what one insider described as the "angry white men of a certain age vote". Not just pishing votes to Unionists, but losing votes to Alba Dougie is having a disaster, can't be long before he's sidelined and Davidson is parachuted back in for interviews and debates. Edited April 4, 2021 by Kyle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanhourjoe Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 5 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: Nothing too surprising there thought I would have thought that Patrick Harvie would have polled better in the favourable section. Alex Salmond has taken a pounding though. Not that surprising. Probably a fairly accurate picture of the greens ceiling under Harvie at the moment. Unionists in general don't like him. And I'd suspect a majority of SNP voters don't to varying degrees for not being independency enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 39 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: He's gammon/feminist Kryptonite. I'm not particularly surprised. I thought that Kryptonite was associated with Superman. A wee bit of a contradiction there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Juanhourjoe said: Not that surprising. Probably a fairly accurate picture of the greens ceiling under Harvie at the moment. Unionists in general don't like him. And I'd suspect a majority of SNP voters don't to varying degrees for not being independency enough. A good take there, and yes Harvie has held the SNP over a barrel in voting to achieve his own party's ends, but that's politics for you where you have to give a compromise a little to achieve the bigger picture, it was ever thus. The turnaround though was Lorna Slaters emergence on the Leaders Debate the other night, a bit wooly to start but her increasing confidence assured a lot of women sympathising with her views, putting your mention of Independence to one side I would say that she garnered a lot of loose votes on her female attitude and stance. Edited April 5, 2021 by SandyCromarty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Are there tangible reasons for not liking Patrick Harvie? Just curious if he's done something terrible that I'm unaware of. Seems like a decent sort to me. Oh, right, I get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, BFTD said: Are there tangible reasons for not liking Patrick Harvie? Just curious if he's done something terrible that I'm unaware of. Seems like a decent sort to me. Oh, right, I get it. He’s a remarkably joyless little man, which obviously sits well with the Indy movement. The ire I would imagine, comes from the distinct possibility that he’s a cyclist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Juanhourjoe Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: A good take there, and yes Harvie has held the SNP over a barrel in voting to achieve his own party's ends, but that's politics for you where you have to give a comprise a little to achieve the bigger picture, it was ever thus. The turnaround though was Lorna Slaters emergence on the Leaders Debate the other night, a bit wooly to start but her increasing confidence assured a lot of women sympathising with her views, putting your mention of Independence to one side I would say that she garnered a lot of loose votes on her female attitude and stance. Aye. The Mrs really got into it when she came on. Only criticism was she could be a little more polished on her presentation. But you never know. With some more exposure, may grow into it more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BFTD said: Are there tangible reasons for not liking Patrick Harvie? Just curious if he's done something terrible that I'm unaware of. Seems like a decent sort to me. Oh, right, I get it. To a cohort who may feel protective of their diesel cars or a percent of two of their income, there's an awful lot to find contention with Patrick. His demand that work on the A9 stops just reeks of a metropolitan laziness. It's all very well to say that the rail network should be improved but where exactly is the practicality in that when one alights at the platform in Inverness? With electric vehicles just around the corner, his A9 policy is just juvenile. So nothing at all to do with any personal preferences as you infer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Glen Sannox said: He’s a remarkably joyless little man, which obviously sits well with the Indy movement. The ire I would imagine, comes from the distinct possibility that he’s a cyclist. which one of his Parliamentary colleagues would you say loves the craic by way of comparison? The eternal jester Wee Willie Rennie? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, KingRocketman II said: which one of his Parliamentary colleagues would you say loves the craic by way of comparison? The eternal jester Wee Willie Rennie? Lorna Slater in the debate came across as personable but I suspect there's a fieriness to her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Does Douglas get punted if the Tories lose seats? By all accounts he’s very unpopular within the Scottish party, at least out of the current MSPs, and was clearly parachuted in by Westminster. He is also clearly an idiot and I don’t see weekly sparring with Nicola Sturgeon really helping him win people over. Probably depends who makes the call. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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