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3 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

Guardiola is cruising to the title.

That's certainly how I see the season panning out. Liverpool won a battle but City won the war. 8)

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7 minutes ago, Raven said:

It was reported as £52.75m which is a massive saving on the £75 you quoted. Still not cheap.

That's the figure they quoted, though would include all add-ons.  Either way a rip-off for a guy who has done nothing at all.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said:

That's certainly how I see the season panning out. Liverpool won a battle but City won the war. 8)

Aye and that will mean Man City have won 3 titles out of 4, with the one in between they got something daft like 96 points. He's the only one who has maintained the level of his squad over a long-ish period of time.  

Also look at Liverpool.  Off the top of my head Rodgers signed Mane and Firmino (I think), no way he could have predicted Salah would have that level of impact, TAA came through the ranks, Minamino and Keita don't really have it, and people like Allison, VVD and Thiago no brainers that a casual football fan would know were good players.

He isn't a genius, he's a good manager but getting found out slightly now.  

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35 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

UEFA provided interpretation when this law was changed in 2013. This was a bad change, and I'm sure I posted about it on here at the time though those are probably gone now.

I believe these are the clips in question -

None of those videos show an offside player challenging for the ball.

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1 hour ago, Erih Shtrep said:

I think the players' know Klopp is off to Celtic.   You can tell.  

Ha, ha, that would nice!  

However, I think Jurgen has already said he retires in summer 2022 or takes a year out or something I vaguely remember.

Then it will be Stevie G's turn to return to Liverpool.

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3 hours ago, Andre Drazen said:

He received it on his chest. How is this so fucking hard to understand?

Erm no, the offside player has to 'receive' it from the opponent. Which he didn't. Mings literally moved the ball in the 180 degree opposite direction to where the forward was.

Away back to playing with your wrestling dolls.

1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

It doesn't have to be a deliberate pass, the ball just has to deliberately played at, which it was. Any deliberate move from a defending player to touch the ball counts. The Manchester City player then "received the ball" off him by coming round from behind him and taking possession of it. Essentially, as soon as Mings deliberately plays at the ball, all bets are off.

This is not a good rule, but this is the rule nonetheless.

I don't think you know what 'receive' means.

Wish me luck tomorrow as I walk into a shop with a baseball bat and 'receive' the contents of the till. Such a generous gift but what can you do?!

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6 minutes ago, Leewood said:

Ha, ha, that would nice!  

However, I think Jurgen has already said he retires in summer 2022 or takes a year out or something I vaguely remember.

Then it will be Stevie G's turn to return to Liverpool.

I've always thought Steven Gerrard's next move will be Celtic.   There's that Liverpool/Celtic link - give him better wages and a YNWA scarf and he'd come.  

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12 minutes ago, virginton said:

I don't think you know what 'receive' means.

Wish me luck tomorrow as I walk into a shop with a baseball bat and 'receive' the contents of the till. Such a generous gift but what can you do?!

The natural extension of this is that Mings could stand with the ball for 10 seconds and the City player still wouldn't be able to come and take it off him. Making the distinction between a player heading the ball which eventually goes to an opponent or chesting a ball which the opponent comes and gets doesn't seem like the point of this rule.

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3 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

The natural extension of this is that Mings could stand with the ball for 10 seconds and the City player still wouldn't be able to come and take it off him. Making the distinction between a player heading the ball which eventually goes to an opponent or chesting a ball which the opponent comes and gets doesn't seem like the point of this rule.

No that's not the case at all, the City player could move back into an onside position and take part in the game again from there. 

Its his responsibility to get himself onside, you can't possibly be asking a defender to not only deal with the players who are in a legal position on the park but legislate for the ones that aren't too.

Its a stupid role made by idiots which is clearly wrong.

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1 minute ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

No that's not the case at all, the City player could move back into an onside position and take part in the game again from there. 

Its his responsibility to get himself onside, you can't possibly be asking a defender to not only deal with the players who are in a legal position on the park but legislate for the ones that aren't too.

Its a stupid role made by idiots which is clearly wrong.

I am in full agreement that the rule is stupid, but my point is that the decision made was correct under these rules. How would the City player "move back into an onside position" - if you mean simply back to be the other side of the Villa player, then is that not basically exactly what did happen here, albeit in much less than the 10 seconds in my example?

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Just now, craigkillie said:

I am in full agreement that the rule is stupid, but my point is that the decision made was correct under these rules. How would the City player "move back into an onside position" - if you mean simply back to be the other side of the Villa player, then is that not basically exactly what did happen here, albeit in much less than the 10 seconds in my example?

Not in that phase of play, he's offside, but if he gets back onside can take part in the next phase.

I read someone today saying if that's the rule say you get a free kick, why wouldn't you just pick a defender put maybe two attackers behind them offside, one in front, fire it straight at them then when they control it pounce and nick it and you're away. Its a stupid stupid stupid rule that needs got rid of.

Realistically they should take all the confusion out as soon as its headed forward he's off so if he makes any move at all to influence the game it should get given.

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1 hour ago, Day of the Lords said:

Minamino is a shining example of Liverpool's lack of depth. He came on and looked like a boy picked to make the numbers up at a game of fives. A couple of shite crosses and got in Salah's way and missed the ball entirely 8 yards out. Super stuff. Salah had come on at about 55 mins and looked almost as ineffectual. All the more frustrating as I'd used my FF triple captain chip on the c**t this week. 

Only signed to sell shirts.

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9 hours ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said:

He's a married man who bonks trannies.

REPORTED 🐍🐍🐍🦊🦊🦊

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8 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:

Only signed to sell shirts.

Could he not get a job in the team?

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11 hours ago, craigkillie said:

I am in full agreement that the rule is stupid, but my point is that the decision made was correct under these rules. How would the City player "move back into an onside position" - if you mean simply back to be the other side of the Villa player, then is that not basically exactly what did happen here, albeit in much less than the 10 seconds in my example?

Correct. There's a number of rules which are poor. This is just another of these.

I'm very surprised an EPL level defender didn't know this was a rule when I was aware of it in amateur football several years ago.

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12 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:

Only signed to sell shirts.

That'a bit harsh as Minamino had played well for RB Salzburg in the Champions League. His release clause was only £7 million which was considered to be a bargain at the time. He's not met expectations, even as a sub, and it would be no surprise if he moves on this year. 

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14 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said:

Only signed to sell shirts.

I think everyone new that at the time. From a commercial point of view it strengthens Liverpool’s position in the Japanese market and opens sponsorship and tour opportunities there too.

He is an absolutely honking player though - Salzburg done well to work the £7m release clause into his contract.

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