Jambomo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Bit harsh imo. Not convinced he's got it, certainly signings have been suspect Werner and Mendy are comically bad. But don't know whether they were his choices. If you look at Arsenal and Southampton it shows the benefit of giving managers a bit of time, I thought that might start a trend of holding off and not pulling the trigger so quickly, but Abrahmovich is not a patient type and they have been pretty rank for a while now. Chelsea have plenty of decent players at the club. Lampard is pretty clearly a terrible manager and I doubt time is going to do much in curing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Did the commentator just suggest that Lampard is struggling because Chelsea have too many good players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Ronaldo. Complete no-brainer. Unless you mean played the best whilst in the EPL, in which case dunno. Ronaldo's final Man Utd season was something ridiculous like 40 goals in 38 league games iirc? will have a wee google in a min and edit as appropriate, but I think even that might be one of the finest individual seasons ever, he was unbelievable. edit: as promised! ahhh looks like it was his second last season i was thinking of. 42 goals in all competitions, 31 in the league + he was the top CL scorer, if wikipedia has it correct. Edited January 19, 2021 by Thistle_do_nicely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Wasn't even the best Arsenal player in the Barclays.Ray Parlour? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: Ronaldo's final Man Utd season was something ridiculous like 40 goals in 38 league games iirc? will have a wee google in a min and edit as appropriate, but I think even that might be one of the finest individual seasons ever, he was unbelievable. edit: as promised! ahhh looks like it was his second last season i was thinking of. 42 goals in all competitions, 31 in the league + he was the top CL scorer, if wikipedia has it correct. Yeah, it depends what is meant by best player in the EPL. He is the best player ever to have played in it almost certainly, but was only really at his best for two seasons then away to Madrid. So you could say someone like Giggs who won it about 12 times or Scholes about the same. But Ronaldo has won five WPOTY awards, if its just best player nobody can touch that. Btw can you name the only other WPOTY winner to have played in the premiership? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jambomo said: Chelsea have plenty of decent players at the club. Lampard is pretty clearly a terrible manager and I doubt time is going to do much in curing that. Maybe, my point is we don't really know yet. You would have said the same of Hassenhutl and Arteta not so long ago, now both are flying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Yeah, it depends what is meant by best player in the EPL. He is the best player ever to have played in it almost certainly, but was only really at his best for two seasons then away to Madrid. So you could say someone like Giggs who won it about 12 times or Scholes about the same. But Ronaldo has won five WPOTY awards, if its just best player nobody can touch that. Btw can you name the only other WPOTY winner to have played in the premiership? Modric. Bergkamp is surely in the conversation for best EPL player? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Mark Connolly said: Modric. Bergkamp is surely in the conversation for best EPL player? Apart from him Yeah tremendous player, David Silva too. Its really a subjective thing, you could throw a lot of names out there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bernardblack Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Modric. Bergkamp is surely in the conversation for best EPL player?Zola for me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Bergkamp was my first thought as best player. Edited January 19, 2021 by Jambomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Leicester were excellent there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Btw can you name the only other WPOTY winner to have played in the premiership? 15 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Modric. 13 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Apart from him This is the type of quiz you want on Mastermind. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Apart from him Luis Suarez 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iminavest Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Not the same longevity as some but Yaya Toure has to be up there as one of the best all rounders. Was absolutely untouchable for a couple of seasons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicesterlichtie Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Comfortable win. Gerrard has to be in the mix for best player. Edited January 19, 2021 by Leicesterlichtie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Cptn Hooch said: Luis Suarez Never won it -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Apart from him Yeah tremendous player, David Silva too. Its really a subjective thing, you could throw a lot of names out there. only a handful of names are coming to me but cant pick any, none of them sound right but w/o cheating - Shevchenko or Ballack at Chelsea, Fernando Torres with Liverpool and Zlatan at Man Utd. Think they've surely had some individual honours but not a WPOTY. 17 minutes ago, bernardblack said: Zola for me His longevity was mad iirc, kept going until he was nearly a Kenny Miller age, think he scored a respectable few for Cagliari including a hattrick against Juve in one of his final seasons playing. edit: googled it. wasn't a hattrick but he scored two against Juve in his final professional game at almost 39 Edited January 19, 2021 by Thistle_do_nicely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thistle_do_nicely said: only a handful of names are coming to me but cant pick any, none of them sound right but w/o cheating - Shevchenko or Ballack at Chelsea, Fernando Torres with Liverpool and Zlatan at Man Utd. Think they've surely had some individual honours but not a WPOTY. His longevity was mad iirc, kept going until he was nearly a Kenny Miller age, think he scored a respectable few for Cagliari including a hattrick against Juve in one of his final seasons playing. Nope Cracking clue for anyone....his cousin played for Southampton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle_do_nicely Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Nope Cracking clue for anyone....his cousin played for Southampton George Weah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Nope Cracking clue for anyone....his cousin played for Southampton George wheah? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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