David W Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, GordonS said: At centre half they had three first-choice players and Fabinho can do a job there, so they were unlucky. But you'd think they'd have to spend there. I'd not say they were unlucky. Centre half is, by some distance, the position where most injuries are suffered. It was beyond idiotic to go into the season with just three centre halves, especially when Matip is injured all the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, David W said: I'd not say they were unlucky. Centre half is, by some distance, the position where most injuries are suffered. It was beyond idiotic to go into the season with just three centre halves, especially when Matip is injured all the time. Is it? We need Statto on this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Liverpool always look a threat with their ability to go down in the box like a sack of spuds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Yip. It's why Fergie was so good. He could adapt. Most managers can't. 7 hours ago, Cptn Hooch said: FTFY The only assistant you can really claim did that was Carlos Queiroz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The only assistant you can really claim did that was Carlos QueirozI'm not saying Fergie wasn't one of the greatest of all time but his strength was man management...he surrounded himself with the right people to keep his team evolving tactically. Mourinho has done the same when he joined Spurs.Archie Knox showed his worth when he joined Smith at RangersBrian Kidd was the man behind the class of 92Steve McLaren introduced video analysis and stats based coaching to Fergie. Also became a successful manager in his own rightMike Phelan was fergie's assistant twice and he returned to be Solskjaer's assistant at the tail end of last season which has seen them go from mid table dross and Solskjaer out" to joint top with a game in hand and "Ole's at the wheel"Rene Meulensteen was an important part of the end of Fergie's time and the plan was initially for him to stay on to assist Moyes. Moyes decided to bring in his own team and it didn't go quite to plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Setsniffer Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: I'm not saying Fergie wasn't one of the greatest of all time but his strength was man management...he surrounded himself with the right people to keep his team evolving tactically. Mourinho has done the same when he joined Spurs. Archie Knox showed his worth when he joined Smith at Rangers Brian Kidd was the man behind the class of 92 Steve McLaren introduced video analysis and stats based coaching to Fergie. Also became a successful manager in his own right Mike Phelan was fergie's assistant twice and he returned to be Solskjaer's assistant at the tail end of last season which has seen them go from mid table dross and Solskjaer out" to joint top with a game in hand and "Ole's at the wheel" Rene Meulensteen was an important part of the end of Fergie's time and the plan was initially for him to stay on to assist Moyes. Moyes decided to bring in his own team and it didn't go quite to plan. Eric Harrison was the ''man behind the class of 92'' they were all good assistants, but Queiroz had a real say over how things went, which lead to.... Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 8 hours ago, David W said: I'd not say they were unlucky. Centre half is, by some distance, the position where most injuries are suffered. It was beyond idiotic to go into the season with just three centre halves, especially when Matip is injured all the time. Fair point, especially this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, GordonS said: Fair point, especially this season. I'm just not having that at all. CB's are big and strong, and do less running than any other outfield player, and get kicked less too. I would imagine, except for goalkeepers, they get injured less than other players. It seems a wild claim that they are by far the most injured. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Cptn Hooch said: I'm not saying Fergie wasn't one of the greatest of all time but his strength was man management...he surrounded himself with the right people to keep his team evolving tactically. Mourinho has done the same when he joined Spurs. Archie Knox showed his worth when he joined Smith at Rangers Brian Kidd was the man behind the class of 92 Steve McLaren introduced video analysis and stats based coaching to Fergie. Also became a successful manager in his own right Mike Phelan was fergie's assistant twice and he returned to be Solskjaer's assistant at the tail end of last season which has seen them go from mid table dross and Solskjaer out" to joint top with a game in hand and "Ole's at the wheel" Rene Meulensteen was an important part of the end of Fergie's time and the plan was initially for him to stay on to assist Moyes. Moyes decided to bring in his own team and it didn't go quite to plan. Is that why he hired Walter Smith at the end of 2003 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Cptn Hooch said: I'm not saying Fergie wasn't one of the greatest of all time but his strength was man management...he surrounded himself with the right people to keep his team evolving tactically. Mourinho has done the same when he joined Spurs. Archie Knox showed his worth when he joined Smith at Rangers Brian Kidd was the man behind the class of 92 Steve McLaren introduced video analysis and stats based coaching to Fergie. Also became a successful manager in his own right Mike Phelan was fergie's assistant twice and he returned to be Solskjaer's assistant at the tail end of last season which has seen them go from mid table dross and Solskjaer out" to joint top with a game in hand and "Ole's at the wheel" Rene Meulensteen was an important part of the end of Fergie's time and the plan was initially for him to stay on to assist Moyes. Moyes decided to bring in his own team and it didn't go quite to plan. Aye, that's why none of them have done f**k all on their own. Fergie was a genius at every aspect of management, not just man management. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Lol. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 I'm just not having that at all. CB's are big and strong, and do less running than any other outfield player, and get kicked less too. I would imagine, except for goalkeepers, they get injured less than other players. It seems a wild claim that they are by far the most injured.A quick search on Google would suggest that Attackers are the most injured, defensive midfielders the least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Aidan said: 10 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I'm just not having that at all. CB's are big and strong, and do less running than any other outfield player, and get kicked less too. I would imagine, except for goalkeepers, they get injured less than other players. It seems a wild claim that they are by far the most injured. A quick search on Google would suggest that Attackers are the most injured, defensive midfielders the least. Aye that makes much more sense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Mkhitaryan to Liverpool is an interesting one. At first glance you'd assume some defenders would be priority but they've struggled creatively so I can see why Klopp's interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Mkhitaryan to Liverpool is an interesting one. At first glance you'd assume some defenders would be priority but they've struggled creatively so I can see why Klopp's interested. Obviously didn't watch him at Man Utd or Arsenal. Will be interesting to see if he can get him playing the way he did at Dortmund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 01/12/2020 at 17:42, Bully Wee Villa said: Villa Newcastle game off. Would have preferred to play their under 23s, but it is fair enough that it has been postponed really. I reserve the right to be pissed off if we have an outbreak later in the season and aren't allowed to postpone it. Sigh. Fucking great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Sigh. Fucking great. It's just the cup! How long are the first team players out for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Presumably at least 10 days. Or it fourteen you have to quarantine for? Of course they may well be in no fit state to play straight away. Bruce was saying that Newcastle players still haven't recovered. I assume our league games will be postponed but that isn't allowed in the cup. We could be playing four or five games a week towards the end of the season at this rate! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 The players need vaccinated ASAP. It's an absolute scandal that the haven't been already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) The odds for Villa to win with correct score Edited January 8, 2021 by Merkland Red 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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