Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: They can shove these changes up their arses. Aye, you might find leagues like Scotland become more popular, can market themselves as 'real' football or whatever. Already was happening a bit with no VAR. But money talks, this stuff will definitely happen sooner or later. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 With lower league clubs desperate for cash, the bigger premier League sides will see it as the right time to buy them off. Shite idea that will eventually happen so that the big teams can play each other every week and not have to suffer the wee pishy clubs turning up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 James Rodriguez will be relieved that he'll never have to prove to Richard Keys whether he really can do it on a Tuesday night in Stoke. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, meanmistermustard said: With lower league clubs desperate for cash, the bigger premier League sides will see it as the right time to buy them off. Shite idea that will eventually happen so that the big teams can play each other every week and not have to suffer the wee pishy clubs turning up. There is nothing in it for the EFL. It is a loan that is guaranteed by the EPL. They can probably convince the govt to give them a similar loan if they couldn't find a one on commercial terms while interest rates are at record lows. In return for this loan the EFL give up a promotion place, making their league less attractive. Abolishing the league cup that they own the rights to. Having to kick 2 teams out of the EFL. Accepting that EPL clubs will be able to more thoroughly exploit the loan system turning most teams into glorified B sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repeat_offender Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Bully Wee Villa said: They can shove these changes up their arses. 100% agree BWV, blatent power grab. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazza Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Does appear to be power grab by bigger clubs though we have seem relative dross manage to stay up in the premier league. Think this covid situation will make them more consider making all games broadcastable in the UK so perhaps premier league not playing 3pm Saturday but as a result harder for EFL to go up against them for tv games. The tv package while on average might benefit teams in EFL better it will probably create greater cliff edge for teams that overspend to stay in EPL. Firm rules should be in place so that any premier league contract is automatically reduced if the team is relegated and if necessary protections for the other side on release clauses. Hard to see this going through first time of asking but something is going to give eventually either EPL reduces or takes control/scraps league cup. The EFL though does seem a bit over the top with 46 games a season plus 3 cup competitions perhaps some logic in them going for 4 divisions of 20 and also more promotion and relegation to the conference. Having attended a couple of Championship games and seen some on tv it really is not that great a product to watch, its very physical probably given the fitness and endurance required but not much skill there even just going to 38 games would be better to watch. I think this has an effect on type of players Scotland squad has as many of our players gravitate down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, grazza said: Does appear to be power grab by bigger clubs though we have seem relative dross manage to stay up in the premier league. Think this covid situation will make them more consider making all games broadcastable in the UK so perhaps premier league not playing 3pm Saturday but as a result harder for EFL to go up against them for tv games. The tv package while on average might benefit teams in EFL better it will probably create greater cliff edge for teams that overspend to stay in EPL. Firm rules should be in place so that any premier league contract is automatically reduced if the team is relegated and if necessary protections for the other side on release clauses. Hard to see this going through first time of asking but something is going to give eventually either EPL reduces or takes control/scraps league cup. The EFL though does seem a bit over the top with 46 games a season plus 3 cup competitions perhaps some logic in them going for 4 divisions of 20 and also more promotion and relegation to the conference. Having attended a couple of Championship games and seen some on tv it really is not that great a product to watch, its very physical probably given the fitness and endurance required but not much skill there even just going to 38 games would be better to watch. I think this has an effect on type of players Scotland squad has as many of our players gravitate down south. It is only 3 cups for leagues 1 and 2. And that is because most teams are unlikely to progress in the Big Cups. And they have the international break that they can play during. The EFL trophy ends up with a big day out at Wembley so it brings in some good cash for the winners. I don't think playing less game is going to change the culture of the leagues. I agree they probably would be better off in terms of injuries going to smaller leagues but any move to create a new 5th tier is going to be seen by most as the Conference in all but name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: Aye, you might find leagues like Scotland become more popular, can market themselves as 'real' football or whatever. Scotland already has a more concentrated scenario like this. We have an 11-1 voting system that favors 2 clubs, the same 2 clubs that strangle the game and hoover up all the money and support. Does anyone really think that Scotland is a purer form of football when it comes to power and money????? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 33 minutes ago, grazza said: Firm rules should be in place so that any premier league contract is automatically reduced if the team is relegated and if necessary protections for the other side on release clauses. I totally agree with this, there should be a standard contract that gives you a bigger wage if you play in the premier league. If your team are relegated then you are clearly not good enough so shouldn't get paid the same. The players who are good enough will get a transfer to stay in the league. 34 minutes ago, grazza said: The EFL though does seem a bit over the top with 46 games a season plus 3 cup competitions perhaps some logic in them going for 4 divisions of 20 and also more promotion and relegation to the conference. Having attended a couple of Championship games and seen some on tv it really is not that great a product to watch, its very physical probably given the fitness and endurance required but not much skill there even just going to 38 games would be better to watch. I think this has an effect on type of players Scotland squad has as many of our players gravitate down south. Another good point, there leagues are too big, however if 2 are dropping down from the EPL to get 3 x 20 team leagues then 14 teams need to drop down to the national league, hard to see that happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazza Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, ahemps said: I totally agree with this, there should be a standard contract that gives you a bigger wage if you play in the premier league. If your team are relegated then you are clearly not good enough so shouldn't get paid the same. The players who are good enough will get a transfer to stay in the league. Another good point, there leagues are too big, however if 2 are dropping down from the EPL to get 3 x 20 team leagues then 14 teams need to drop down to the national league, hard to see that happening. I was going for 4 leagues of 20 below the top flight of 18 or whatever. It does mean an extra tier but like I said also open up more promotion and relegation with conference. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Surprised it's taken this long for such a proposal to be made. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 2 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Surprised it's taken this long for such a proposal to be made. Never waste a crisis - they know it's a non-starter under anything approaching normal life, so are chancing it here when there are many clubs in a state of distress. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluearmyfaction Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 It's weird that the solution to the big clubs playing too many games is to cull the games that make the smaller clubs money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, bluearmyfaction said: It's weird that the solution to the big clubs playing too many games is to cull the games that make the smaller clubs money. Too many games. Not enough time for pre-season tours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 The teams down at the bottom of the league are rotten. No one would miss them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 "Project Big Picture"? "Project Selfish B******s" more like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I'm shocked that the American billionaire owners of Man Utd and Liverpool want to create a USA style closed shop in order to make themselves a lot richer at the expense of others. Fair play to jobber clubs like West Ham and Southampton if they can blag themselves 'special status'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummie Clyde Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Newcastle and Villa have had more Premier League seasons than Man City.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Graham Alexander sacked as Salford City manager, Paul Scholes in interim charge.EFL thread for this pish. This is the Barclays thread. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 We tried to have a closed shop with the SPL. For once England is copying us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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