Ginaro Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, RiG said: Completely unfathomable how it's end up all over the place. The bit I'm struggling with is how the power car looks like it is pointing upwards (yellow front) while being so close to the ballast. It's like it has dug in and flipped. Guessing carriage 1 has followed then jack knifed leaving carriage 2 perpendicular to the tracks where the other carriages have hit it. All you can say is fucking hell and RIP to those who died. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Mate of mine (and poster on here) works for Scotrail out of Aberdeen, think he was one of the managers at the site today, cant imagine what he’s gone through and seen today, horrible thing to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, beefybake said: The conductor was one of the 3 people who have died. 2 conductors on there. 1 of them survived. The other, and the driver, sadly not. No idea of the condition of those who are in hospital, but from the pictures I would say it’s miraculous that anyone has come away from that alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ross. said: No idea of the condition of those who are in hospital, but from the pictures I would say it’s miraculous that anyone has come away from that alive. Pretty sure officials said earlier that the injuries of those in hospital "aren't life threatening". That said, castration by drinks trolley probably wouldn't fall into that category, so goodness knows. Without seat-belts, you're almost certainly going to end up on the other side of any of those carriages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 the 3rd death has been confirmed as a passenger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Also i think this is the first major accident in Scotland since 2012, the first fatal accident in Scotland since 1994 and the first fatal train derailment in the UK since 2007? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Without reading the whole topic - is it cool to make jokes about it? Or can we only make jokes about atrocities in like, Lebanon and shit? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Without reading the whole topic - is it cool to make jokes about it? Or can we only make jokes about atrocities in like, Lebanon and shit? Probably too soon to go full steam ahead with the jokes imo. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 hours ago, tamthebam said: BBC says that the" UK Transport Minister" Grant Shapps is to visit the scene. I'm not turning this into a Union/Independence thing and I'm happy for Mr Shapps to visit if some good will come of the disaster, I just wonder what his locus is as transport is devolved to the Scottish Parliament. Is it because Network Rail comes under Grant Shapps' ministry as it's a UK wide concern? In all fairness, if a train derailed in Albania, I would like to think that people here would like to know why and could it happen here. Thus the whole union versus independence issue is not entirely relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 The bit I'm struggling with is how the power car looks like it is pointing upwards (yellow front) while being so close to the ballast. It's like it has dug in and flipped. Guessing carriage 1 has followed then jack knifed leaving carriage 2 perpendicular to the tracks where the other carriages have hit it. All you can say is fucking hell and RIP to those who died.The upright power car would be the trailing one. No idea where the leading power car went, it doesn't appear to be on the photo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 If it was a movement on down line in wrong direction they’d only be doing 50mph too - scary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: Without reading the whole topic - is it cool to make jokes about it? Or can we only make jokes about atrocities in like, Lebanon and shit? Actually yes. Not too soon though. That would be callous but over time people will make jokes about most of these things not because they don't care but as a way to come to terms with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Fullerene said: Actually yes. Not too soon though. That would be callous but over time people will make jokes about most of these things not because they don't care but as a way to come to terms with it. They never needed time to make joke regarding what happened in Lebanon. Did they care or just not need time regarding what happened there? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said: 3 hours ago, Ginaro said: The bit I'm struggling with is how the power car looks like it is pointing upwards (yellow front) while being so close to the ballast. It's like it has dug in and flipped. Guessing carriage 1 has followed then jack knifed leaving carriage 2 perpendicular to the tracks where the other carriages have hit it. All you can say is fucking hell and RIP to those who died. The upright power car would be the trailing one. No idea where the leading power car went, it doesn't appear to be on the photo. Maybe read my post with the Sky News photo which tells you it's in amongst the trees on the embankment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar_Army Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Somebody I know had a work colleague on that train. She was one of the "lucky" ones, in hospital but going to be ok. Had got on at Stonehaven to travel travel to work in Dundee. Apparently today was supposed to be her last day at work as was travelling to see her family this weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Maybe read my post with the Sky News photo which tells you it's in amongst the trees on the embankment. It caught fire, with the actual cab ripped off: You can tell that’s the cab end because it’s a clean break. HST cabs are interchangeable so they can be quickly replaced (e.g. if a train hits an animal) rather than taking the whole locomotive out of service. Edited August 12, 2020 by The Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. Alli said: Without reading the whole topic - is it cool to make jokes about it? Or can we only make jokes about atrocities in like, Lebanon and shit? I made a joke early on, then deleted it as I realised some people on here might be close to someone on the train. It's unlikely anyone knows someone who was hanging around Beirut docks when it blew up, but haven't noticed any jokes yet anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Very sorry to see this, respect to all involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: They never needed time to make joke regarding what happened in Lebanon. Did they care or just not need time regarding what happened there? I am not aware of any jokes about Lebanon. I think it was horrific. Very similar to the Halifax explosion a century ago. However people do make jokes about serious things over time to desensitise the issue. I have done so on here regarding the Titanic. On some subjects I never will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shipa Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Apologies that my first P&B post is in these unfortunate circumstances, but as a train driver from Perth who drives this route every other day, I feel I can't just ignore this thread. I don't yet know which of my colleagues have passed away as a result of this, but I will know them, my thoughts are very much with all involved and their families. Edited August 13, 2020 by Shipa 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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