lubo_blaha Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Probably because of this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58118134 And thats the ones that were traced to there, probably more Meanwhile less than a month before these fanzones, hibs and st johnstone weren't allowed fans in at hampdenSo a negligible percentage of the total number of attendees.There is also no evidence that any of these people actually caught covid at the fanzone. As someone else has said, the people who went would have been in pubs, at games, on public transport, at workplaces, possibly down to London around about that time, all of which are much more risky covid-wise than Glasgow Green. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 50 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Probably because of this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-58118134 And thats the ones that were traced to there, probably more Meanwhile less than a month before these fanzones, hibs and st johnstone weren't allowed fans in at hampden Lol 100 cases out of the how many thousands attending. In other words the fanzone lead to just as few a cases as any other outdoor setting. I also expect a fair chunk of the 100 cases were affected on public transport or in pubs before or after the actual games rather than in the wide open socially distanced tables on Glasgow Green. 14 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: So a negligible percentage of the total number of attendees. There is also no evidence that any of these people actually caught covid at the fanzone. As someone else has said, the people who went would have been in pubs, at games, on public transport, at workplaces, possibly down to London around about that time, all of which are much more risky covid-wise than Glasgow Green. And how many fans would have caught covid at the scottish Cup final, but the risk was too great for that, Infact how many covid outbreaks have happened due to full capacity stadiums since they returned 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, lubo_blaha said: So a negligible percentage of the total number of attendees. There is also no evidence that any of these people actually caught covid at the fanzone. As someone else has said, the people who went would have been in pubs, at games, on public transport, at workplaces, possibly down to London around about that time, all of which are much more risky covid-wise than Glasgow Green. Isn’t that what Leitch used as his reasoning in December as to why stadium restrictions were on the cards, that he wasn’t that worried about transmission in the stadiums, rather the travel and meeting up beforehand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Huisdean50 said: Which just goes to show that this was a ridiculous and pointless restriction introduced by a FM who fails to understand many of the impacts of her governments decisions. If the clubs at the weekend allowed more than 500 in what could the government do about it? For me it's up to the clubs,would the police stop the game from going ahead or would they just stand with their wee camera and say there is more than 500 in here. We all know this 500 number is nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 9 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: If the clubs at the weekend allowed more than 500 in what could the government do about it? For me it's up to the clubs,would the police stop the game from going ahead or would they just stand with their wee camera and say there is more than 500 in here. We all know this 500 number is nonsense. You would assume that the government/council could force them to play behind closed doors for not following restrictions/rules 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: You would assume that the government/council could force them to play behind closed doors for not following restrictions/rules It would be interesting to see what would happen, I think the game would get abandoned and played at a later date. Nobody can force the game to go ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 And how many fans would have caught covid at the scottish Cup final, but the risk was too great for that, Infact how many covid outbreaks have happened due to full capacity stadiums since they returned The answer to both is zero, or close to that.I agree that they should have allowed a few thousand into the cup final. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Isn’t that what Leitch used as his reasoning in December as to why stadium restrictions were on the cards, that he wasn’t that worried about transmission in the stadiums, rather the travel and meeting up beforehand.Swinney seemed to say it was more down to perceptions of being able to mix with others during a covid spike and Sturgeon said it was to reduce the strain on emergency services. Probably a number of factors at play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said: Swinney seemed to say it was more down to perceptions of being able to mix with others during a covid spike and Sturgeon said it was to reduce the strain on emergency services. Probably a number of factors at play. It just seems to be so inconsistent. This was Leitch ahead of the League Cup final: Quote Jason Leitch has expressed concern over fans travelling to Hampden Park for Sunday’s Premier Sports Cup final between Celtic and Hibernian amid a sharp rise in Covid cases. Scotland’s national clinical director raised his fears earlier today as the Omicron variant continues to spread across the country. Leitch admitted the game itself is not likely to cause issues but is fearful that 50,000 people travelling to and from the national stadium could potential lead to a further spike in infections. Celtic are expected to have 30,000 supporters in attendance, with many arriving from outwith Glasgow on supporters’ buses and public transport, while around 19,000 Hibs fans will travel through from Edinburgh on trains, buses and cars. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon introduced a new set of measures on Tuesday in an attempt to curtail the spread of the virus, with a three household limit on any social gatherings over the festive period. To date, football crowds has been unaffected but there are growing concerns this could change as cases continue to increase. Professor Leitch said: “Once you get to the cup final, I’m actually not that worried because that’s outdoors, it’s a big space, it will be Scotland in December - it will likely be windy and cold. So the virus won’t like that. “What I am worried about is the buses, the cars, the trains getting to that event.” During the summer we were at the peak of the Delta variant's transmission yet these concerns were not raised as thousands used buses, cars and trains to head to the fanzone. I'm not saying it was wrong to hold the fanzone, far from it, but it just seems concerns and other factors are brought up inconsistently and are applied when they feel like it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Someone may correct me here but last may the government kept glasgow in tier 3 which resulted in club football suffering (the cup final) and then miraculously glasgow was able to go into tier two in time for the euros starting, and iirc the cases werent much different if any difference at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 The cup final would only have had an attendance of 500 under the Tier 2 regulations anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 16 hours ago, craigkillie said: The cup final would only have had an attendance of 500 under the Tier 2 regulations anyway. Yet when in tier 2 for the euros they allowed a 3k fanzone and 12k at hampden for games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Because it was an international event with a specific exemption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: Because it was an international event with a specific exemption. Aye, an exemption granted by the Scottish Government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: Because it was an international event with a specific exemption. So the scottish government chose to give and exemption to an international event and not a domestic event 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 I don't understand the point of any of this argument now to be honest. I thought it was about why the Euros was able to go ahead with fans, which was because it was granted an exemption as a large-scale international event (ie because it would have been a massive vote loser for them if the games went to Wembley instead). I'm not sure why I'm getting others disagreeing with me whilst saying the exact same as I did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I don't understand the point of any of this argument now to be honest. I thought it was about why the Euros was able to go ahead with fans, which was because it was granted an exemption as a large-scale international event (ie because it would have been a massive vote loser for them if the games went to Wembley instead). I'm not sure why I'm getting others disagreeing with me whilst saying the exact same as I did. I thought it was about the rugby 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 What's the current rules on Passports, LFTs etc... Is it back to over 10k folk again? I'm confused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMCs Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, johnnydun said: What's the current rules on Passports, LFTs etc... Is it back to over 10k folk again? I'm confused. Yeah it's back to 10k+ and they are meant to be checking 50% of entrants to stadiums above that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Everyone was getting checked at a sub 5k at Tannadice on Wednesday. f**k knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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