DA Baracus Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Don't ask me, I'll never tell I looked to you as it fell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I see now is the time for reconstruction according to Albion Rovers, despite them voting against it. Wonder why? OK to relegate teams during a pandemic last season. Not OK to related teams during a pandemic this season. I think now IS the time for reconstruction but in whatever way that means there is no promotion from the championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think now IS the time for reconstruction but in whatever way that means there is no promotion from the championship.I'm sure that will be factored in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 14 hours ago, 8GamesToGo said: I see now is the time for reconstruction according to Albion Rovers, despite them voting against it. Wonder why? OK to relegate teams during a pandemic last season. Not OK to related teams during a pandemic this season. There was no relegation from League 2 last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 He talked about colts again so any and all arguments he subsequently made are invalid. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Romeo said: 15 hours ago, 8GamesToGo said: I see now is the time for reconstruction according to Albion Rovers, despite them voting against it. Wonder why? OK to relegate teams during a pandemic last season. Not OK to related teams during a pandemic this season. I think now IS the time for reconstruction but in whatever way that means there is no promotion from the championship. To be fair the largest team in the Championship was promoted to the Premiership a few months back, and those left there could be categorised as (a) lacking in ambition, or (b) having unfinished stadiums. It is perhaps fairest to allow these teams time to sort themselves out and also ensures that everyone already in the Premiership can budget for next season with a degree of certainty. Works for everyone, imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 To be fair the largest team in the Championship was promoted to the Premiership a few months back, and those left there could be categorised as (a) lacking in ambition, or (b) having unfinished stadiums. It is perhaps fairest to allow these teams time to sort themselves out and also ensures that everyone already in the Premiership can budget for next season with a degree of certainty. Works for everyone, imo.It's only fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDonald Jardine Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 To be fair the largest team in the Championship was promoted to the Premiership a few months back, and those left there could be categorised as (a) lacking in ambition, or (b) having unfinished stadiums. It is perhaps fairest to allow these teams time to sort themselves out and also ensures that everyone already in the Premiership can budget for next season with a degree of certainty. Works for everyone, imo.[emoji16] worried about more losses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, MacDonald Jardine said: worried about more losses? Seaside forum for this pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Green Day said: To be fair the largest team in the Championship was promoted to the Premiership a few months back, and those left there could be categorised as (a) lacking in ambition, or (b) having unfinished stadiums. It is perhaps fairest to allow these teams time to sort themselves out and also ensures that everyone already in the Premiership can budget for next season with a degree of certainty. Works for everyone, imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) On 14/11/2020 at 20:56, 8GamesToGo said: I see now is the time for reconstruction according to Albion Rovers, despite them voting against it. Wonder why? OK to relegate teams during a pandemic last season. Not OK to related teams during a pandemic this season. On 14/11/2020 at 21:20, GNU_Linux said: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/albion-rovers-covid-crisis-could-be-catastrophic-as-boss-makes-league-reconstruction-plea/ar-BB1b0GIh?MSCC=1598400523 Substantially more hypocrisy than that... You may recall it was Reid who did nothing to hide his delight it got knocked back in the spring as it saved Albion Rovers hiring a bus and buying lunch for Brora games. Quote https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/albion-rovers-gaffers-birthday-relief-22198675 Albion Rovers gaffer's birthday relief as club avoid costly Brora Rangers trip SPFL reconstruction was voted down yesterday and it was good news for Brian Reid and his men The new Rovers gaffer is working on a shoestring budget at Cliftonhill and knows the eight-and-a-half-hour round trip to Dudgeon Park in the Highlands would have hit the club in the pocket. Asked for his reaction to the vote, a relieved Reid said: “It saves us a trip to Brora. “I never realised how far away Brora is – it’s nearly up at John O’Groats. I was speaking to the chairman and the board the other day about that. “It would have seen us leaving at 6am to get there for a Saturday game, so that would have been a long way up. “No disrespect to Brora, I’m sure it’s a lovely place, but in terms of the geography of it, it would have been a long way to go and a lot of expense to the club to go up there. “We’d have to get the bus, stop over for a pre-match meal somewhere. It would have been a bit of a cost. Reid spent his birthday walking his dog and spending time with his family. But he added: “It might be part-time football, but it’s a full-time job, seven days a week. Industrial-grade brass neckery. Edited November 16, 2020 by HibeeJibee 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutankhamen Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Did that Albion Rovers chappie mention Colts? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Up to 4000 fans allowed to attend matches in lower risk areas after lovkdown ends in England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Up to 4000 fans allowed to attend matches in lower risk areas after lovkdown ends in England. I don't see why similar shouldn't be allowed to happen in places like the Highlands should cases remain relatively low there. I don't think it will be allowed to happen though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Is it a level 1 areas in Scotland where fans are allowed? Is there a definition of allowable crowd size? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Up to 4000 fans allowed to attend matches in lower risk areas after lovkdown ends in England. It's not that straight forward. It's max 4k in T1 and 2K in T2 or 50% of max capacity if less than those ceilings. So a non league club with a safety cert for 3000 would only be permitted a max of 1500 at the min Tier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Which is still 5 times what they'd be allowed here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier said: Up to 4000 fans allowed to attend matches in lower risk areas after lovkdown ends in England. As noted this new system down south is more nuanced than that headline. It's 4,000 in level 1... 2,000 in level 2... and remains banned in level 3. In both permitted levels it's also capped at 50% of capacity. (Plus obviously you won't be able to pack 1 stand and leave others shut!). Previously crowds there were only permitted in non-league football: capped at 15% of capacity initially, which later rose to 30%. There were also limits depending on your pyramid tier e.g. tier 7 was 300 (rising to 600); tier 8 was 200 (rising to 400); tiers 9 & 10 were 150 (rising to 300). Northern Ireland seems to have been 500 or 600 with 1,000 at larger venues. Eire allowed 100, 200 or 500 depending on local level. UEFA's limit is 30% of capacity if local regulations allow. 4 hours ago, ropy said: Is it a level 1 areas in Scotland where fans are allowed? Is there a definition of allowable crowd size? More limited. Up here it's 300 in levels 0 & 1. There is no cap at any % of capacity: it's 300 whether at Fort William (20%) or Inverness (4%). You're going to see a brief and unique situation from this Saturday as Highland League clubs (in Highland + Moray) post the biggest attendances in Scotland. Aberdeen + 'shire, Dumfries & Galloway, East Lothian and Borders are currently level 2. Not many SPFL clubs there either but plenty HL, Lowland, East and South. Edited November 23, 2020 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I remain to be convinced that allowing supporters back (in the top flight) in dribs and drabs is really worth it on any level. Does really make any financial sense to allow a few hundred in when all the normal overheads are inflated by Covid protocols? From a supporters point of view - it looks fucking miserable when you see tiny crowds dotted around a forest of plastic seats. When you strip the experience of a game to literally sitting quietly on a cold seat on your own, there isn't much appeal TBH (especially when the pub/socialising part is similarly fucked) I go to 30-odd games every season in normal times but I'd happily give up any ticket that I got for one of these games to someone who really wanted to go that much. I wonder from a marketing/recovery point of view if it would actually be better to wait until much later in the season until the vaccination programme has taken effect and have more of a "back with a bang" approach - as it would be fucking tremendous to have a proper event to build up to rather that things just drifting back... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I take it Doncaster has been on another Zoom call with his pal Douglas Ross? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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