welldaft Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: With that logic.... i demand Robinson is brought back for both games as he should have been in charge of the original fixtures I think that is only fair 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, NorthBank said: Fans that followed Scottish football closely should immediately see the irony of my post. However as you do not appear to fall into that category I shall spell it out for you. Many Clubs have broken Covid Rules. However only two clubs have been punished 3-0 forfeits , not for breaking Covid rules, but for 'not being able to fulfil a fixture'. Which raises the question why are Clubs not having a 3-0 forfeit at other times when they 'cannot fulfil a fixture'? I have never know a Club to suffer a 3-0 forfeit when games are called off for floodlight failure, waterlogged pitches, frozen pitches, icy pavements or when many players are down with an illness like the flu. So when the illness is Covid during a world wide pandemic why is that the only reason to be punished when other clubs cannot fulfil fixtures for no-Covid reasons? If you require further explanation in future over topics you don't get just PM me. How many times were cup games previously forfeited because a club was unable to fulfil a fixture? That's already happened this season in both the Scottish and English League Cups though, because of Covid protocols. It's almost as if there's a global pandemic ongoing which makes your shrieking and whataboutery about waterlogged pitches and icy pavements being equivalent issues utterly risible. Still, presumably if Saint Mirren and other clubs were so keen on making sure that the Unique and Intolerable Injustice of forfeiting a game due to Covid restrictions was avoided, they must have organised a motion to explicitly remove this option from the SPFL's scope of action prior to season starting. Or perhaps they only became interested in the injustice of it all once Saint Mirren's protocols proved unable to keep weans out of a close never mind a highly contagious virus. 2 hours ago, CambieBud said: If St Mirren and Killie lose today’s appeal, the biggest loser is Ross County who will be marooned, so to speak. That cannot be right Perhaps a fifteen point penalty could be slapped onto the losing parties then. As noble crusaders against all iniquity in the world, I'm sure that Saint Mirren would willingly acquiesce with that outcome. Edited January 14, 2021 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Don't worry about County lads. We are comfortably finishing 12th regardless how the appeals go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, virginton said: How many times were cup games previously forfeited because a club was unable to fulfil a fixture? That's already happened this season in both the Scottish and English League Cups though, because of Covid protocols. It's almost as if there's a global pandemic ongoing which makes your shrieking and whataboutery about waterlogged pitches and icy pavements being equivalent issues utterly risible. Still, presumably if Saint Mirren and other clubs were so keen on making sure that the Unique and Intolerable Injustice of forfeiting a game due to Covid restrictions was avoided, they must have organised a motion to explicitly remove this option from the SPFL's scope of action prior to season starting. Or perhaps they only became interested in the injustice of it all once Saint Mirren's protocols proved unable to keep weans out of a close never mind a highly contagious virus. Perhaps a fifteen point penalty could be slapped onto the losing parties then. As noble crusaders against all iniquity in the world, I'm sure that Saint Mirren would willingly acquiesce with that outcome. I remember once upon a time that Morton were in the top division of Scottish football. Do you? Edited January 14, 2021 by Guest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, virginton said: How many times were cup games previously forfeited because a club was unable to fulfil a fixture? The last time in Scottish football was a whole two years ago when Bohemians failed to fulfil their match against East Fife in the Challenge Cup. Prior to that, it also happened in the Scottish Cup in 2001 when Airdrie couldn't get a team together for a match against Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, welldaft said: We could end up playing St Mirren with Brophy scoring a winning goal when he was not even part of the squad back then. Is that sporting integrity? I think you're allowed to transfer players too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: I think you're allowed to transfer players too. After last summer that would be my key concern It is all about timing and when the games are rearranged. If we get the opportunity to reshape our squad and can hopefully make it better what with a new Manager at the helm. If the games are to be replayed so be it. I would hope our team would be as much up for the games as Killie and St M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55665249 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Munoz said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55665249 I don’t understand that bit where it says “Mandatory Covid testing has just been introduced for Championship clubs.”? So what have they been doing up til now? Does that mean that St Mirren players could have caught it during the games in the league cup eg QOTS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Yflab said: I don’t understand that bit where it says “Mandatory Covid testing has just been introduced for Championship clubs.”? So what have they been doing up til now? Does that mean that St Mirren players could have caught it during the games in the league cup eg QOTS? Most likely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Yflab said: I don’t understand that bit where it says “Mandatory Covid testing has just been introduced for Championship clubs.”? So what have they been doing up til now? Does that mean that St Mirren players could have caught it during the games in the league cup eg QOTS? no 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Yflab said: I don’t understand that bit where it says “Mandatory Covid testing has just been introduced for Championship clubs.”? So what have they been doing up til now? Does that mean that St Mirren players could have caught it during the games in the league cup eg QOTS? Was testing not supposed to be done for lower league clubs ahead of any games against Premiership clubs in the League Cup? The Premiership clubs were paying for the testing or something like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, G51 said: no And you have evidence to back this up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yflab said: And you have evidence to back this up? H2H. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, virginton said: How many times were cup games previously forfeited because a club was unable to fulfil a fixture? That's already happened this season in both the Scottish and English League Cups though, because of Covid protocols. It's almost as if there's a global pandemic ongoing which makes your shrieking and whataboutery about waterlogged pitches and icy pavements being equivalent issues utterly risible. Still, presumably if Saint Mirren and other clubs were so keen on making sure that the Unique and Intolerable Injustice of forfeiting a game due to Covid restrictions was avoided, they must have organised a motion to explicitly remove this option from the SPFL's scope of action prior to season starting. Or perhaps they only became interested in the injustice of it all once Saint Mirren's protocols proved unable to keep weans out of a close never mind a highly contagious virus. Perhaps a fifteen point penalty could be slapped onto the losing parties then. As noble crusaders against all iniquity in the world, I'm sure that Saint Mirren would willingly acquiesce with that outcome. Goodness me you are bitter. Unlike you though I won't give you a red dot for expressing an opinion. We are not talking about Cups. Has there ever been a League game suffer a forfeit for 'not being able to fulfil a fixture' due to illness. Maybe you could tell us when. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/spfl-covid-forfeit-plans-rejected-22947400 Edited January 14, 2021 by NorthBank 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, capt_oats said: H2H. 168 hours is a long time in COVID land. Just your seven days! Jeez. No guarantee that those players were not carrying the virus then! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, NorthBank said: Goodness me you are bitter. Unlike you though I won't give you a red dot for expressing an opinion. We are not talking about Cups. Has there ever been a League game suffer a forfeit for 'not being able to fulfil a fixture'. Maybe you could tell us when. I could be completely wrong but St Mirren asked for the game to be postponed but the SPFL did not sanction it, then St Mirren said they could not field a team for what ever reason COVID suspensions and injuries being sited. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Yflab said: I don’t understand that bit where it says “Mandatory Covid testing has just been introduced for Championship clubs.”? So what have they been doing up til now? Does that mean that St Mirren players could have caught it during the games in the league cup eg QOTS? I thought lower league testing was a requirement for any club if playing against top flight oposition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Ok Helen Lovejoy. Doh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldchap Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 15 hours ago, craigkillie said: Can you remind me of the last time a team forfeited a fixture due to having players unavailable through illness? I recall a Dunfermline vSt.Mirren game being called off in Tom Hendries day because the saints team were all ill. The game was played a couple of months later . There were no sanctions. I'm sure there are many other similar cases so why is it so different this season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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