Southside Dave Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Hi all, I’m hoping someone will be able to help me out and be able to give me more details on the medal below. My father-in-law recently came across it when rummaging in his garage and has no recollection as to how he came by it or if it of any significance. You will see on the inscription the governing body was S.S.J.F.A. I don’t know if the ‘J’ stands for Junior or Juvenile, or if the ‘S.S’ stands for South Scotland. I also can’t find anything on the internet relating to a Greenfield United around that time. I appreciate it that it may not be related to Junior football but if anyone can help or point me in the right direction it would be great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Might be a link to Shettleston? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shettleston_F.C. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carntyne Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 It could be the South-Side Juvenile F.A. Cup Final, Greenfield United v Hayfield, 6 July 1918, Gymnasium Park, Broomloan Road, Govan. source: Daily Record, 6 July 1918. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 The hallmark is dated 1918 and shows it's 9-carat gold. I think it's unlikely that Scottish junior (or indeed any) football authorities would be handing out solid gold medals in wartime. They're not known for big spending at the best of times. Plus, according to Wikipedia, "During World War I top flight football continued as usual ... all other football was suspended although unofficial competitions did take place" Very mysterious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Carntyne said: It could be the South-Side Juvenile F.A. Cup Final, Greenfield United v Hayfield, 6 July 1918, Gymnasium Park, Broomloan Road, Govan. source: Daily Record, 6 July 1918. Excellent research, sir! SSJFA seems to have had plenty of money. Maybe they were ahead of their time with sponsorship! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Dave Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Carntyne said: It could be the South-Side Juvenile F.A. Cup Final, Greenfield United v Hayfield, 6 July 1918, Gymnasium Park, Broomloan Road, Govan. source: Daily Record, 6 July 1918. This is excellent, thanks for this info. Can I ask if you can post the web link (if it was from the internet) of the source? Googling 'South Side Juvenile F.A. Cup Final 1918' doesn't throw anything up for me. Interested in finding out more about the player if possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carntyne Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 You need a subscription to the British Newspaper Archive to see the advert for this fixture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Dave Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Carntyne said: You need a subscription to the British Newspaper Archive to see the advert for this fixture. Ah ok, I presume you have a subscription and that is how you found it. Is that all the info that was there? Was there anything on the team line ups etc. Just trying to find out if it is worthwhile me taking out the subscription if the only info is as you have provided already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carntyne Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I don't have a subscription. I searched for "Greenfield United" in 1918 and that is how I found the info. It does not look like there is a match report in Monday's Daily Record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Dave Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Ok, thanks very much for your help, much appreciated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig O'Lea Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 The game against Hayfield at Moore Park on the 6th July was actually the Govan Cup Final. Greenfield had already won the Glasgow Juvenile Cup, South Side Cup and Glasgow League Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig O'Lea Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 They then lost the Scottish Juvenile Cup final the following night at Cambuslang. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carntyne Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Brig O'Lea said: The game against Hayfield at Moore Park on the 6th July was actually the Govan Cup Final. Greenfield had already won the Glasgow Juvenile Cup, South Side Cup and Glasgow League Cup. The above match was played on Monday 8 July. The South-Side Cup final was played on 6 July between the same clubs ay Gynasium Park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southside Dave Posted August 15, 2020 Author Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) On 10/08/2020 at 10:21, Carntyne said: The above match was played on Monday 8 July. The South-Side Cup final was played on 6 July between the same clubs ay Gynasium Park. Yes, the clincher is the acronym on the medal (S.S.J.F.A.). The other cup finals mentioned did not come under the governance of South Side Juvenile Football Association. On looking into 'Gymnasium Park', the image below is lifted from a 1918 map of Glasgow. The Govan Police Force owned the police recreation grounds shown on the map. In a previous comment on this thread there is a press mention of another game being played at Moore Park which you have to assume is somewhere within the wooded grounds of Moorepark House, as shown on the map just south of the police recreation grounds. This is clearly named Moore Park in the press cutting so I have to assume that Gymnasium Park is part of the police recreation grounds. Apparently Benburb FC were based at the police recreation grounds between 1911-1925 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benburb_F.C. Edited August 15, 2020 by Southside Dave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Did find some bits in the Scottish Referee newspaper around those dates, but difficult to track down. Enjoyed looking through old papers etc, as mentioned, subscription is required most times. Guessing the police grounds are now housing ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Eriss said: Great thread Great history Proud to be a junior supporter Cheers Hey, another new username? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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