St. Johnstone v Aberdeen (The Massey-Ferguson Main Event)

[BawWatchin]

38 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said:

Is there not photos of a load of Hibs boys going out for food at a restuarant the very same night? 

Anyway, game rearranged for Thursday 20th. Is it to be shown on Sky? 

No sure m8. But if there is, they got away with it, which makes it perfectly fine.

[Rodhull]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Unlucky?  How about “stupid”, or “ignorant”, or “selfish”?  All would be far more fitting.

These adjectives can also be ascribed to those who fail to condemn the players’ actions

Alright Reverend Paisley behave yourself.

The players deserve plenty of criticism but the policing of how outraged the fans are over it isn’t needed.

[Bose]

9 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Thicker than everyone else in the pub?

I realise you have an agenda but I’ll play along, no they aren’t thicker but that’s a very low bar. Anyone who sits about in a crowded bar and doesn’t observe social distancing while this virus is still around is thick as f**k. 

Edited August 8, 2020 by Bose

[BawWatchin]

8 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Thicker than everyone else in the pub?

Was everyone else in the pub bundled together in large groups from more than 3+ house holds with work to attend within a couple of days? Or was it just a handful of auld punters sitting distantly from one another while enjoying a pint?

[Detournement]

1 minute ago, Bose said:

I realise you have an agenda but I’ll play along, no they aren’t thicker but that’s a very low bar. Anyone who sits about in a crowded bar and doesn’t observe social distancing while this virus is still around is thick as f**k. 

That's everyone with a social life then!

 

[resk]

Are Aberdeen really going to be able to discipline the players? Do they have it in their contracts that they can't go out?

There probably won't be a "cant go to the pub" provision in their contracts but there will probably be stuff in there about representing the club and not damaging the club's reputation, basically whatever they use to fine/punish them when they get pished and into fights. Then there's covid specific protocols, which the FM said they broke (so I would say its pretty damn certain that they did), but it doesn't seem to be public knowledge what these rules are and how the players broke them.

TLDR - yes, no. IMO.

[Szamo's_Ammo]

It's an unexpected day off for the players then. I wonder what they're getting up to.

[resk]

Was everyone else in the pub bundled together in large groups from more than 3+ house holds with work to attend within a couple of days? Or was it just a handful of auld punters sitting distantly from one another while enjoying a pint?

If it was Soul Bar then it probably wasn't auld yins having a hauf and hauf then up the road for a fish supper TBF.

[Detournement]

6 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

Was everyone else in the pub bundled together in large groups from more than 3+ house holds with work to attend within a couple of days? Or was it just a handful of auld punters sitting distantly from one another while enjoying a pint?

Aye Soul Bar in Aberdeen is well known for being popular with the half and hauf crew. 

Anyone who thinks the majority of people are only socialising with two other households is a moron. 

[Bose]

6 minutes ago, Detournement said:

That's everyone with a social life then!

 

You aren’t that stupid surely? You have to go to crowded pub to have a social life? I’d suggest getting some pals or a partner. 

[Detournement]

6 minutes ago, resk said:

There probably won't be a "cant go to the pub" provision in their contracts but there will probably be stuff in there about representing the club and not damaging the club's reputation, basically whatever they use to fine/punish them when they get pished and into fights. Then there's covid specific protocols, which the FM said they broke (so I would say its pretty damn certain that they did), but it doesn't seem to be public knowledge what these rules are and how the players broke them.

TLDR - yes, no. IMO.

Normalising the idea that your work can punish you for getting ill or just mildly risky behaviour in general is a slippy slope. 

Stupid footballers is always a popular witch hunt in the UK but people need to remember they are just workers like the majority of us. 

[craigkillie]

20 hours ago, craigkillie said:

I didn't use the word restaurant about the Aberdeen players, I used it about the Hibs ones. My understanding was that the breach of protocol was down to the Aberdeen players breaking this mystical "bubble" that everyone keeps talking about but nobody has quite defined. If it's the case that they're supposed to be in a total bubble, then going out to any sort of restaurant and bar would be against the protocol, regardless of how busy they were or whatever else. Nobody here appears to know exactly what the rules are.

It is certainly not the responsibility of Aberdeen players to enforce other people to social distance in pubs, or to enforce track and trace in a pub. This is not an attempt to absolve them from any responsibility, but rather an attempt to get to the bottom of exactly what action it was from the players which broke the rules.

At what point are the rules broken? Is it by going into the pub at all? If so, the Hibs players presumably (and probably others up and down the country) committed the same offence by going to a restaurant. Was it because the players themselves didn't socially distance? Again, it would appear the Hibs players were guilty of this too unless the four of them all live together. Was it because the pub was busy and therefore all people in there couldn't socially distance?

 

Further to this, there's an article in The Times today which suggests that there is no official mention of any sort of bubble in the return to football guidelines, and that the issue with the Aberdeen players appears to be that more than three households met up indoors.

[BawWatchin]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Aye Soul Bar in Aberdeen is well known for being popular with the half and hauf crew. 

Anyone who thinks the majority of people are only socialising with two other households is a moron. 

The vast majority of people aren't going out for a piss up in the first place. For professional football players to go out and do that, not only breaking lock down laws, but their own club rules as well following such an abject performance, is basically a big middle finger up at the club and it's fans.

[Doctor]

15 minutes ago, Bose said:

I realise you have an agenda but I’ll play along, no they aren’t thicker but that’s a very low bar. Anyone who sits about in a bar  is thick as f**k. 

could have shortened the text and its the same 

[coprolite]

3 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

 

Further to this, there's an article in The Times today which suggests that there is no official mention of any sort of bubble in the return to football guidelines, and that the issue with the Aberdeen players appears to be that more than three households met up indoors.

McInnes confirmed in his interview that the rule they had broken was the "four households" one. He was pissed off they went to the pub but that sounded like it was because he doesn't want them going drinking and he thought they shouldn't have gone out after losing. 

[craigkillie]

1 minute ago, coprolite said:

McInnes confirmed in his interview that the rule they had broken was the "four households" one. He was pissed off they went to the pub but that sounded like it was because he doesn't want them going drinking and he thought they shouldn't have gone out after losing. 

 

It's interesting that there were an awful lot of self-righteous posts on here about players breaking the bubble, but there doesn't even appear to be a bubble to break.

[vikingTON]

7 minutes ago, BawWatchin said:

The vast majority of people aren't going out for a piss up in the first place. 

[BawWatchin]

Just now, virginton said:

Not at all. The vast majority of people are avoiding the pubs and clubs. It's only the high profile venues that are seeing mobbed crowds. Most local pubs are close to empty.

[vikingTON]

Hardly anybody is going out and getting pished!!! right now because of the big bad virus so professional footballers doing so is wrong.

v 

The pubs were absolutely rammed with people and social distancing was not happening so professional footballers should have turned around and gone immediately to bed

As mutually contradictory, moralising guff statements go, this is a true clash of the titans. Please choose which of these you want to run with @BawWatchin.

[DukDukGoose]

7 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

 

It's interesting that there were an awful lot of self-righteous posts on here about players breaking the bubble, but there doesn't even appear to be a bubble to break.

McInnes mentioned a bubble himself.