Leith Green Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: It happens quite often at a football match, depending on your position in the crowd a fan can get a better view than a camera. Yep There were some suggestions that our winner at St J came off Bushiri arm. TV was inconclusive but there was some amateur footage from behind the goal that showed it wasn't. I guess that once our version of VAR arrives and we have more than the TV angles, that may help? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 The problem with all this, of course, is that eye-witnesses are famously unreliable as support for anything. We all 'see' things we expect or occasionally want to see. It's just how the brain works. We also do not remember things as we actually saw them at the time, but as a version we choose to remember them as. We could probably track down another eye-witness with a good view who didn't think it was handball. We definitely could if we had St Mirren fans with the same view. So, our Aberdonian correspondant may be sure he saw the ball hit Gallagher's arm, but that doesn't really mean anything at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: The problem with all this, of course, is that eye-witnesses are famously unreliable as support for anything. We all 'see' things we expect or occasionally want to see. It's just how the brain works. We also do not remember things as we actually saw them at the time, but as a version we choose to remember them as. We could probably track down another eye-witness with a good view who didn't think it was handball. We definitely could if we had St Mirren fans with the same view. So, our Aberdonian correspondant may be sure he saw the ball hit Gallagher's, arm, but that doesn't really mean anything at all. I doubt there were any St Mirren fans behind the goal in line with the ball hitting Gallagher around the elbow area. You'll just have to agree that when I say that I saw it, I did actually see it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, kingjoey said: I doubt there were any St Mirren fans behind the goal in line with the ball hitting Gallagher around the elbow area. You'll just have to agree that when I say that I saw it, I did actually see it. I'm not saying you never saw that or that it wasn't a penalty. My point was that Sportscene did absolutely nothing to establish it was other than show an extremely misleading angle, which they presented as conclusive proof when it wasn't. It makes me, even more, sceptical about the kind of thing we'll be expected to swallow from Var. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: I'm not saying you never saw that or that it wasn't a penalty. My point was that Sportscene did absolutely nothing to establish it was other than show an extremely misleading angle, which they presented as conclusive proof when it wasn't. It makes me, even more, sceptical about the kind of thing we'll be expected to swallow from Var. Didn’t want the VAR system, still don’t want it, but no turning back now. The genie is out of the bottle. (It was a penalty because I saw it) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianfranco Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Richard Tait scores a beauty and does a knee slide celebration in front of an old man with a hat and sunglasses who is sitting down sipping his drink out a straw absolutely hating life. Paisley ladies and gentlemen. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Livi-Hibs looked like an excellent game, Motherwell-Aberdeen was cracking and full of chances, so obviously Rangers steamrollering St Johnstone was on first. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Swami said: Livi-Hibs looked like an excellent game, Motherwell-Aberdeen was cracking and full of chances, so obviously Rangers steamrollering St Johnstone was on first. It was also the commentary game on Radio Scotland, despite being the least interesting by far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Gianfranco said: Richard Tait scores a beauty and does a knee slide celebration in front of an old man with a hat and sunglasses who is sitting down sipping his drink out a straw absolutely hating life. Paisley ladies and gentlemen. It certainly was not Oaksoft. He never goes to see St Mirren play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munoz Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Gianfranco said: Richard Tait scores a beauty and does a knee slide celebration in front of an old man with a hat and sunglasses who is sitting down sipping his drink out a straw absolutely hating life. Paisley ladies and gentlemen. Probably an Old Firm infiltrator trying to get in early to avoid detection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starryfish Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Seems like it’s the opening two matches on Sportscene that now get the full screen graphic treatment. It annoys me more than it should but it’s just very shoddy, it’s a real struggle to read the scrolling team lines when they are appearing on screen for seconds at a time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Livi-Hibs looked like an excellent game, Motherwell-Aberdeen was cracking and full of chances, so obviously Rangers steamrollering St Johnstone was on first. There's genuinely no justification for it. Didn't have the most goals, no 'narrative', wasn't the most exciting. It's another thing that makes Scottish football seem like the other 10 teams in the league are footnotes. Seems like it’s the opening two matches on Sportscene that now get the full screen graphic treatment. It annoys me more than it should but it’s just very shoddy, it’s a real struggle to read the scrolling team lines when they are appearing on screen for seconds at a time.It's also a highlights show so there are obviously gonna constantly be things happening, therefore you don't get the opportunity to read the teams. Or you do read them/get distracted and miss one of the highlights. It's a really stupid decision. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Gianfranco said: Richard Tait scores a beauty and does a knee slide celebration in front of an old man with a hat and sunglasses who is sitting down sipping his drink out a straw absolutely hating life. Paisley ladies and gentlemen. I seen that last night . Absolutely brilliant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I'm surprised they didn't comment on it. He never even paused his drinking, it was as though nothing had happened. At least the guy a few seats along briefly clapped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I notice that Rangers v St Johnstone and St Mirren v Ross County had 18-yard cameras yesterday, which suggests these were being used as VAR test events. But more relevant for this thread is that it suggests the extra angles for VAR will be used for Sportscene as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 That Dundee United keeper is just honking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The Master said: I notice that Rangers v St Johnstone and St Mirren v Ross County had 18-yard cameras yesterday, which suggests these were being used as VAR test events. But more relevant for this thread is that it suggests the extra angles for VAR will be used for Sportscene as well. Goes to show they pick the order of games regardless of what happens. Rangers on 1st yesterday so Celtic today. It would be more logical for Rangers game to be on last to try and attract more viewers until the end of the show. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Aberdeen have had a ‘good start to the season’ despite losing 2 of their first 3 league games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Clown Job said: That Dundee United keeper is just honking Bit embarrassed we only managed one goal past him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 A nice way to start coverage of tonight's Hearts game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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