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21 minutes ago, energyzone said:

When is the AGM?

No idea but it's usually mid-end May, and the rules say between 15th May - 30th June. I would assume they'd wait until after the L2 play-offs at least, but not too much longer given the 17th July proposed season start date.

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16 hours ago, Ginaro said:

George Fraser was recently on the (last ever) Scottish Football Marketing Podcast: https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/football-development/club-services/developing-your-club/scottish-football-marketing-podcast/lowland-league/

Talking about ventilation in the pyramid, thought the telling quote was "maybe we as a league have to recognise that we have to do something and be proactive" - hopefully that means the LL finally realise they can't keep moaning about the SPFL not opening up the pyramid if they don't do the same. Has to be 2 down in a 16 team league.

Fortunately if Brechin go down later this month then it's unlikely a HL team will be club 42 next season, which means the bottom LL club won't escape relegation.

Even 2 in a 16 team league isn't enough. Get 3 or 4 down.

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My ideal number down would be a dynamic system of 3. If all 3 tier 6 feeder winners are licensed 3 go down. If only two licensed then two go down. The tier 6 leagues already require dynamic relegation to their tier 7 so it doesn't change much in that regard.

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Mozza on the latest podcast saying the SOS are looking at moving down a tier (the worst kept secret in Scottish football apparently :unsure:). Now that combined with 2 relegations places would be perfect to get "ventilation" in the pyramid...

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10 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Mozza on the latest podcast saying the SOS are looking at moving down a tier (the worst kept secret in Scottish football apparently :unsure:).

Not sure I would put a ton of stock in it beyond the general assumption that most people have from the outside that think the SoS will move down or integrate into the WoS at some point. After all the conversation around that started off based on George Fraser's appearance on another podcast.

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On 03/05/2021 at 23:55, Ginaro said:

Fortunately if Brechin go down later this month then it's unlikely a HL team will be club 42 next season, which means the bottom LL club won't escape relegation.

Has the LL actually come out and said that VOL won't be relegated this season even if Brechin wins the playoff?

 

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5 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Has the LL actually come out and said that VOL won't be relegated this season even if Brechin wins the playoff?

 

No, they've get quiet on things publicly. One of the reasons for their panicked statement around the time of PPG being declared. Once certain dominoes fell (T6 null & voided, Brechin City as Club 42). I think they've been hoping the whole time they won't have to make a public decision on it and can say they would have relegated if things went the other way.

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Does the VoL chairman have a dossier of compromising photos of various LL officials? Why on Earth are the LL doing everything they can to keep them up?

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19 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

Has the LL actually come out and said that VOL won't be relegated this season even if Brechin wins the playoff?

No but the fact they went to 17 to save VOL last season indicates they will just continue with 17 so that no club is relegated once again.

1 minute ago, Gordon EF said:

Does the VoL chairman have a dossier of compromising photos of various LL officials? Why on Earth are the LL doing everything they can to keep them up?

To be fair neither season has been completed in full so I don't think it's the worst decision to play with 17 to not relegate any club (while still allowing Bo'ness promotion). 

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21 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

Does the VoL chairman have a dossier of compromising photos of various LL officials? Why on Earth are the LL doing everything they can to keep them up?

At the time the clocks stopped in 2019-20 there wasn't much in it at the bottom with some of the teams to still play each other.

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This year the LL Board were quite happy to throw them under the bus to get the SPFL Play-off organised. VoL have just been lucky with the way things have transpired since then with no Tier 6 Champion declared.

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4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

At the time the clocks stopped in 2019-20 there wasn't much in it at the bottom with some of the teams to still play each other.

This year the LL Board were quite happy to throw them under the bus to get the SPFL Play-off organised. VoL have just been lucky with the way things have transpired since then with no Tier 6 Champion declared.

Even if there was a tier 6 champion there would still need to be a board decision to go back to 16 clubs for them to be relegated.

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Ummmmm. Forgive me if I missed summat, but surely the 21-22 LL would actually end up with 19 teams in it with 2x Colts, if Kelty fail to beat Brechin next week?

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On 14/05/2021 at 11:55, Footballfirst said:

Has the LL actually come out and said that VOL won't be relegated this season even if Brechin wins the playoff?

 

Recall: No team is to be disadvantaged by the inclusion of the two Colts teams...

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On 04/05/2021 at 16:44, GNU_Linux said:

My ideal number down would be a dynamic system of 3. If all 3 tier 6 feeder winners are licensed 3 go down. If only two licensed then two go down. The tier 6 leagues already require dynamic relegation to their tier 7 so it doesn't change much in that regard.

There must be a system in place to allow either a constitution of x teams/x+1 teams at all times in both Tier5 Leagues, particularly in the LL. This, to avoid situations arising where the (at this time) 2nd.-last teams cannot be sure of relegation/survival at Tier5 in the current season, depending on the SPFL playoffs. Rather, in a season when a team drops into the LL from the SPFL, without replacement, the x+1 team allowance is invoked and that creates an extra relegation position in the following season.

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38 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

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Should point out that this hasn’t been confirmed by the Lowland as yet. Still need to keep the pressure on if we want further relegation to come into being.

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If the OF Colts for one season was the price to pay for two relegation spots this season, would folk here accept that?  Might quell some of the anger from fans... 

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8 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

If the OF Colts for one season was the price to pay for two relegation spots this season, would folk here accept that?  Might quell some of the anger from fans... 

I have long advocated for more relegation from the LL, so I'd definitely see that as a positive. But colts is no price worth paying for that imo.

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