FairWeatherFan Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: Neil Doncaster is for it and the majority of lower league Clubs too. The stumbling block is that the top 12 who get 85% of the spfl payouts are not prepared to give up any money to fund a 5th tier so what happens is that the lower leagues continually get pelters when actually most are up for change. Aye, i'm sure it's just the top 12 against it. That's the only thing stopping it from happening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Brazilianlex said: I will try again ! The agreement is that the spfl lower leagues will play 27 games. The Clubs are willing and prepared to spend to on testing to achieve that. It is now up to the SFA to allow that. If the SFA do not allow the 27 games to proceed then we are back to the same place as last season whereby it is impossible to complete the league. The agreement on 27 games is an agreement between the League 2 clubs. It has no bearing on the play-offs, the format of which remains unchanged. The play-offs simply require Club 42 of the SPFL to take part, there's nothing in there about season length. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dougie Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Brazilianlex said: What’s bonkers about it ? Of course Spfl Clubs are terrified of dropping into a shit league with no ambition, no sponsors, no funding. Clubs can’t moan about not being allowed the chance to get into a National League then say it’s bonkers to play in a National League If there was a properly funded tier 5 then that would be good for everyone wouldn’t it ? seems to do ok in England ! Please explain the “no ambition” comment. This should be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Big Dougie said: Please explain the “no ambition” comment. This should be good. The Lowland and Highland League have no ambition How much do Clubs get from League Sponsorship ? Have they tried to get any sponsorship ? The Leagues turned down automatic promotion when offered to be spfl3, why ? -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 45 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The agreement on 27 games is an agreement between the League 2 clubs. It has no bearing on the play-offs, the format of which remains unchanged. The play-offs simply require Club 42 of the SPFL to take part, there's nothing in there about season length. Like last season then. How did the play off go ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Jerry Macguire said: Im not aware of an offer from the SPFL ever being on the table, perhaps some other posters on here will have better knowledge? Ask your Chairman -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dougie Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: The Lowland and Highland League have no ambition How much do Clubs get from League Sponsorship ? Have they tried to get any sponsorship ? The Leagues turned down automatic promotion when offered to be spfl3, why ? You are out of your depth here mate, I suggest you toddle off back to the self preservation league, where the ambition is just ripping out the likes of Brechin and Cowdenbeath. Sorry, you are so misinformed that I suspect you are actually just trolling now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Big Dougie said: You are out of your depth here mate, I suggest you toddle off back to the self preservation league, where the ambition is just ripping out the likes of Brechin and Cowdenbeath. Sorry, you are so misinformed that I suspect you are actually just trolling now. Not prepared to answer then ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: The Lowland and Highland League have no ambition How much do Clubs get from League Sponsorship ? Have they tried to get any sponsorship ? The Leagues turned down automatic promotion when offered to be spfl3, why ? SPFL3 never got further than SPFL committee fantasy land as Colts were part of the package. The Lowland League has had sponsors. The Highland League does have a sponsor. Who sponsors the SPFL at the minute? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: Ask your Chairman I'm asking you. Your the one flapping your gums. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jerry Macguire said: I'm asking you. Your the one flapping your gums. Neil Doncaster met with reps from HL and LL and it was dismissed out of hand. if the reps from these divisions actually got off their arses and spoke to the lower league Clubs instead of moaning in the Daily Record, they might find there is a lot of common ground for reform. 25 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: SPFL3 never got further than SPFL committee fantasy land as Colts were part of the package. The Lowland League has had sponsors. The Highland League does have a sponsor. Who sponsors the SPFL at the minute? Check the spfl website, lots of sponsors -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dougie Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: Neil Doncaster met with reps from HL and LL and it was dismissed out of hand. if the reps from these divisions actually got off their arses and spoke to the lower league Clubs instead of moaning in the Daily Record, they might find there is a lot of common ground for reform. Check the spfl website, lots of sponsors Is this like the reform that the SPFL couldn’t agree on last Summer, and when the ambitious Div 2 clubs voted to maintain the practice of playing each other 4 times a season? That type of reform? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Big Dougie said: Is this like the reform that the SPFL couldn’t agree on last Summer, and when the ambitious Div 2 clubs voted to maintain the practice of playing each other 4 times a season? That type of reform? Yup, because the top 12 wouldn’t support any change or put any money in. Thats how it will be until the lower leagues, HL and LL get together and come up with a plan to put to spfl. Until then, the top 12 are happy to watch as we all fight over crumbs and blame each other. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: What’s bonkers about it ? Of course Spfl Clubs are terrified of dropping into a shit league with no ambition, no sponsors, no funding. Clubs can’t moan about not being allowed the chance to get into a National League then say it’s bonkers to play in a National League If there was a properly funded tier 5 then that would be good for everyone wouldn’t it ? seems to do ok in England ! What's bonkers about a 5th national division in Scotland? You really need an answer to that? As for describing the LL as a shite league with no ambition, well it should be a piece of piss, what's there to worry about for the giants from Cowdenbeath, Stenhousemuir or the other L2 backwaters if they drop into it, they'll be back in no time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Brazilianlex said: The Lowland and Highland League have no ambition How much do Clubs get from League Sponsorship ? Have they tried to get any sponsorship ? The Leagues turned down automatic promotion when offered to be spfl3, why ? What sort of sponsors would you expect League 2 to attract if left to their own devices instead of feeding off the Premiership? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said: Neil Doncaster met with reps from HL and LL and it was dismissed out of hand. if the reps from these divisions actually got off their arses and spoke to the lower league Clubs instead of moaning in the Daily Record, they might find there is a lot of common ground for reform. Check the spfl website, lots of sponsors Going by this the SPFL has lots of commercial partners and a few sponsors. With some charities, including their own, to pad it out a bit. In fairness the Lowland League really should have its own Youtube channel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Brazilianlex said: Neil Doncaster met with reps from HL and LL and it was dismissed out of hand. if the reps from these divisions actually got off their arses and spoke to the lower league Clubs instead of moaning in the Daily Record, they might find there is a lot of common ground for reform. Check the spfl website, lots of sponsors You still haven’t told us what exactly it was that the LL & HL dismissed out of hand. I have no knowledge of any offer EVER being made by Doncaster or anyone else at the SPFL. Our reps may indeed need to get off their arses. You my friend are talking through yours. And by the way this, oh look at all our sponsors is a desperate attempt to validate the absolute shambles that is the SPFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jerry Macguire said: You still haven’t told us what exactly it was that the LL & HL dismissed out of hand. I have no knowledge of any offer EVER being made by Doncaster or anyone else at the SPFL. Our reps may indeed need to get off their arses. You my friend are talking through yours. Is it not blatantly obvious? I mean it clearly had the full support of the SPFL if it was only the pesky Highland and Lowland that shot it down. That means it could have only been??? Some grand delusion. As when have the SPFL agreed to anything on reconstruction. Let alone carried out the farce in secret with no propaganda played out in the press. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Is it not blatantly obvious? I mean it clearly had the full support of the SPFL if it was only the pesky Highland and Lowland that shot it down. That means it could have only been??? Some grand delusion. As when have the SPFL agreed to anything on reconstruction. Let alone carried out the farce in secret with no propaganda played out in the press. The SPFL can’t even agree on a back up plan if they can’t complete their 27 game season. Pathetic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Macguire Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: The Lowland and Highland League have no ambition How much do Clubs get from League Sponsorship ? Have they tried to get any sponsorship ? The Leagues turned down automatic promotion when offered to be spfl3, why ? Interesting take on ambition. Finishing at the bottom of league 2 every season but it’s okay we've got sponsorship so we’ll get paid for being shit. The LL have never been offered automatic promotion or an SPFL 3. These are the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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