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1 hour ago, craigiemack said:

A 16 game season isn't the worst, as it could be bulked up by the South Challenge Cup and then maybe a group staged Lowland League Cup at the end of the season.

The HL have changed the format of their knockout big cup into group stages giving more fixtures. I was half hoping for a split for the novelty, but what they're doing makes sense.

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2 minutes ago, Burmah Oil said:

Word is Brora are nearly sure to play more cup games than league games which is proper crazy. Four in the Bet-fred Cup pool, two in the Highland league cup for last year, four five or six in the new League Cup pool, and the cup rounds. Scottish Cup. And a cup with Elgin and North Caley clubs. When you have Promotions and Demotions on the line you should run league and one big cup and pause the rest. Not cut the league then double the cups.

Brora are only one club and that's the price of being the League champion. At least Betfred Cup brings prize money. SPFL Challenge Cup & Scottish Cup are possible and again bring in prize money.

That just leaves the Highland League Cup with a group stage that hasn't been confirmed publicly how many games will be played in the groups and the North of Scotland Cup is typically a midweek filler for local clubs.

The Highland League also has to have their champion determined in time for the SPFL playoff which isn't the same concern for the EoSFL. The Lowland League Playoff will likely be scheduled a few weeks later than the SPFL playoff.

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25 minutes ago, Burmah Oil said:

Twitter saying the South of Scotland League held meetings today and are starting up new season on 10 October. Playing twenty six league games, the South Region Cup, there own South County cup, and other cups at the end of the season. Sounding like that is the same plans in the Lowland League and East of Scotland League but not a South County Cup for those clubs. Not same as the Highland League for sure.

If South of Scotland can start in two months and play twenty six and two cups, no reason why not the Lowland, East of Scotland and West of Scotland as well if only doing one cup. And am reading the EOS conferences have the Kings Cup so two for them.

It'll be easier for the SoSFL to get done certainly. 26 league games. Only 12 of the 14 play in the South Region Challenge Cup and most will be expected to get knocked out in their first game unless they get a favourable draw. The Southern Counties only amounts to 4-5 games max. If any of the teams break 30+ games from those 3 compettions they'll be doing well.

Disappointeed and totally understandable there's no Alex Jack Cup or Alba Cup. Would be a nightmare to organise around non-SFA members while maximising league games, but its also another sign that the Scottish Cup will be a condensed format with limited non-league participation.

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20 hours ago, newcastle broon said:

 

Wee bit clarification here looks like somebody been slavering a load o pish 🤔

 

Tbh Mozza's only mistake was that he said "likelihood" instead of "possibility" in his original tweet :P

30 minutes ago, Burmah Oil said:

If South of Scotland can start in two months and play twenty six and two cups, no reason why not the Lowland, East of Scotland and West of Scotland as well if only doing one cup. And am reading the EOS conferences have the Kings Cup so two for them.

No reason? The SOSFL play 6, 8, and 12 leagues games less than the LL, EOS and WOS respectively. Plus very few of them will make progress in the South Challenge Cup unlike the other leagues. So plenty reasons why it's much easier for the SOS to complete their season.

I'd say the main reason for the Highland League's decision is because they must be finished by 17th April for the pyramid play-off. Only 27 Saturdays available for league matches (minus one for the Scottish Cup as well) so it would be a lot of midweek games on grass pitches.

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Excellent news then, priority has to be to complete the league fixtures  - luckily the number of 3g pitches will be a real bonus to clubs. Going by the weather alone,the HL will always be a different case. Think there will be a decent number of midweek  matches, perfect for yours truly, being selfish for once 😇 

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3 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54058315

Still planning on a full league season as long as it gets approved.

From 10th October to end April there are 30 Saturdays. Obviously there will be some cup games as well, but if that start date is possible, it would be doable. Especially considering all clubs have lights now.

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11 minutes ago, Marten said:

From 10th October to end April there are 30 Saturdays. Obviously there will be some cup games as well, but if that start date is possible, it would be doable. Especially considering all clubs have lights now.

If the SPFL playoffs keep the same structure then the HL/LL games would be the 24th April & 1st May.

Gives 28 Saturdays up to 17th April. 27 with the minimum 1 game from the SCC. Its 32 games but over 34 rounds. Can it be done? Certainly. It's just going to be quite a bit of work without COVID acting up. Considering the circumstances some of the players might well prefer midweek games over midweek training at any rate.

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4 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

If the SPFL playoffs keep the same structure then the HL/LL games would be the 24th April & 1st May.

Gives 28 Saturdays up to 17th April. 27 with the minimum 1 game from the SCC. Its 32 games but over 34 rounds. Can it be done? Certainly. It's just going to be quite a bit of work without COVID acting up. Considering the circumstances some of the players might well prefer midweek games over midweek training at any rate.

The big concern is games piling up because of Covid, and also the weather, which over winter can see a lot of call-offs. 

But they should aim for a 32-game season. I am sure every club wants it, and worst comes to worst you're just cutting the season down to the shortened version it would be anyway if you went for half fixtures.

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37 minutes ago, AlansHotBath said:

The big concern is games piling up because of Covid, and also the weather, which over winter can see a lot of call-offs. 

But they should aim for a 32-game season. I am sure every club wants it, and worst comes to worst you're just cutting the season down to the shortened version it would be anyway if you went for half fixtures.

I think they have to go for it, especially considering the importance of trying to get back to 16 teams. The bottom clubs have typically had little between them. There's also no way of planning for what's to come.

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1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:

If the SPFL playoffs keep the same structure then the HL/LL games would be the 24th April & 1st May.

Gives 28 Saturdays up to 17th April. 27 with the minimum 1 game from the SCC. Its 32 games but over 34 rounds. Can it be done? Certainly. It's just going to be quite a bit of work without COVID acting up. Considering the circumstances some of the players might well prefer midweek games over midweek training at any rate.

Northern League only started Saturday and already been games cancelled because of Covid. Think its gonnae be difficult to start any league far less finish them. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said:

Looking at the online reports on Nicola Sturgeon's briefing today it all looks set up for an announcement tomorrow of a delay on the return of fans.
 

My thoughts as well.

Will be bad for a lot of clubs relying on gate income. Not great but not unexpected.

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17 hours ago, Deanburn Dave said:

Looking at the online reports on Nicola Sturgeon's briefing today it all looks set up for an announcement tomorrow of a delay on the return of fans.
 

This has just been confirmed. Not sure what it means for the return of the football itself.

I had a brief window of optimism about being able to attend a game soon, but I'm back to thinking it won't be until nearer spring now. 

I wonder at what point some teams will consider withdrawing from competitive games for the season, rather than risk the financial impact of running a season without fans.

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12 minutes ago, AlansHotBath said:

This has just been confirmed. Not sure what it means for the return of the football itself.

I had a brief window of optimism about being able to attend a game soon, but I'm back to thinking it won't be until nearer spring now. 

I wonder at what point some teams will consider withdrawing from competitive games for the season, rather than risk the financial impact of running a season without fans.

Well it would mean it will be reviewed for the 5th october. Season starts on the 10th october. Sturgeon is just an arse. We are back in pubs and schools. Ive been working in a supermarket the whole time and not one of us got it.  The answer is simple its pubs thats cuasing the problems put small limits on the amount of people inside at the one time. SOme places might want to book tables like you do. But for example if 150 people are at carmuirs park a ground that can take 3,000 people their is something wrong.

England have bigger problems because they had a bigger revolt over the wearing of masks.

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