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First thing I noticed was the way the programme covered the 1-1 draw with Rangers, and particularly Alfredo Morelos’ equaliser. At the time, the big story was about a fan being caught on camera allegedly racially abusing him. It wasn’t clear at the time if the guy did racially abuse him, but for the BBC to just completely omit any mention of such a big talking point hardly gives you the confidence that this is going to do anything other than show Hearts in the best possible light.

Maybe I’m nit picking, but warts n’ all it ain’t.

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2 hours ago, Raith Against The Machine said:

They need to either tell a rounded story about the women's team, or leave it out completely. See also: the groundstaff, the club shop, the hospitality, the treatment room, the woman taking her laddie to a game. 

Pretty much all of these things are a feature at every club in the country. Show me something new, show me something different, or show me something that's fucking funny. Don't show me How It's Made: A Professional Football Club. 

Pretty sure that will come when the focus shifts to the pandemic and how it affects the people running the club. 

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So far on this thread full of non-Hearts fans who seem incredibly interested in Hearts we've got a misogynistic comment about Budge (again) , slagging off someone with a speech impediment and slagging off someone's birthmark. Stay classy everyone.

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37 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said:

So far on this thread full of non-Hearts fans who seem incredibly interested in Hearts we've got a misogynistic comment about Budge (again) , slagging off someone with a speech impediment and slagging off someone's birthmark. Stay classy everyone.

No excuse for the nonsense you’ve rightly called out, but don’t really understand the non-Hearts fans thing. I’m guessing that anyone who follows Scottish football would be interested in a behind-the-scenes documentary on one of the clubs in the league, regardless of who it was. Would be pretty odd to say it’s not my club so I’m not watching it. 
 

Anyway thought the programme was fairly dull and a bit of a puff piece. No real insight or genuine behind the scenes discussion on anything really. If it was going to be insightful then the sacking of Levein would have been the perfect moment to demonstrate what it could do.  It was just fluff really. Unless it changes its approach significantly for the next few episodes then it looks destined to be a mildly interesting watch but nothing spectacular. Even comparing it to the BBC’s recent Squad Goals on the West Ham women’s team and it’s incredibly tame. Also, I appreciate I’m still probably traumatised by his absolute shiteness as Rovers manager, but hopefully Gary Locke has had his 15 minutes of fame and we’re not subjected to his inane ‘I love Hearts I do’ drivel every week. He adds nothing. 

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20 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said:

The way folk constantly talk about Budge on this board and get away with it is a fucking joke btw.  

Oh, she's a woman, would you f**k her lads?!!

Entirely predictable.  Simple misogyny.  The same way some folk will get triggered by the programme covering the Hearts women’s team. 

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I have recorded this, but based on some comments here it sounds a bit dull. 

Is it actually worth watching as a non Hearts fan?

As for the womens team comments - I assume that they were pointed in this direction by Budge etc as the Hearts Womens team were something she was trumpeting this time last year so makes sense it got some airtime.

Locke? A fan living the dream as "cheerleader".  I used to work alongside his brother - believe me, if you think Gary is a doughnut, you aint seen nothing..........................

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6 hours ago, 8GamesToGo said:

Pretty sure that will come when the focus shifts to the pandemic and how it affects the people running the club. 

I think you're probably right, but it feels a bit like making a documentary on Nixon's White House and focusing on how the press secretary gets to his work in the morning whilst making vague allusions to Watergate. 

The "inside story" of Hearts last twelve months, and why it's interesting, has absolutely nothing to do with what the groundsman did while he was on furlough. 

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The show was fine and interesting enough just not sure its what we were all looking for. The tone was just off. Made it look like Hearts were a happy go lucky community club doing there best, not one of the biggest clubs in the country that got pretty much everything wrong last season. Hopefully the next couple of episodes sort it out and really capture the car crash of a season

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Just now, Raith Against The Machine said:

On Gary Locke and Raith Rovers, it's like hating the dog for crashing your car.

It all went horribly wrong, but he tried his best, and ultimately you never should have given him the keys. 

Yeah, I actually felt sorry for him. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, and a few of the players spoke highly of him. I've no doubt he really tried his upmost and gave his all, he was just nowhere near good enough and should never have been in that position. 

John Hughes however... 

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Wonder if wee Ann has agreed some rights to veto what could/couldn’t be included in the programme? She surely must have, there’s no way Hearts disaster of a season would be anywhere near as tame behind the scenes.  Can see a good few viewers patching the other episodes because it’s so obviously watered down and dull. 

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8 hours ago, Toby said:

First thing I noticed was the way the programme covered the 1-1 draw with Rangers, and particularly Alfredo Morelos’ equaliser. At the time, the big story was about a fan being caught on camera allegedly racially abusing him. It wasn’t clear at the time if the guy did racially abuse him, but for the BBC to just completely omit any mention of such a big talking point hardly gives you the confidence that this is going to do anything other than show Hearts in the best possible light.

What was the outcome of it? 

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Can understand the club not agreeing to a warts and all documentary as it’s not in their interest to make themselves look foolish, but there were so many opportunities missed. There wasn’t even one meaningful behind the scenes conversation shown about the process of employing Stendel, besides the completely stilted and staged conversation between Ann Budge and the finance person who looked like they couldn’t care less who had applied.  If all we are in for is an extremely awkward Budge and a childlike Gary Locke desperate to be on camera, then it’s going to be a very dull watch. 

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2 hours ago, Tony Wonder said:

The way folk constantly talk about Budge on this board and get away with it is a fucking joke btw.  

Oh, she's a woman, would you f**k her lads?!!

No.

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