Detournement Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, welshbairn said: If Kennedy hadn't been assassinated he'd be remembered for launching Bay of Pigs and the Vietnam War. Why would the CIA want him offed? The Bay Of Pigs failed because of Kennedy. Dulles as head of the CIA told Kennedy the operation would succeed knowing it would actually fail unless Kennedy authorised US air support and ground troops. JFK refused that and it failed. After this he fired Dulles and his closest allies from the CIA. JFK had also ordered a draw down from Vietnam which was rescinded less than 24 hours after his death. He was running a back channel to Moscow to avoid the crazy anti communists in his government and had agreed to withdraw US nuclear missiles from Turkey during the Cuba missile crisis. Listen to this speech and think how it sounded to the lunatics who wanted the USA to be permanently at war. And think of how US militarism has developed since then and the impossibility of hearing a US, British, French or German leader saying these things now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, welshbairn said: I've always thought the Mafia were more likely than the CIA That does not surprise me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Listen to 578 - Assassination Day feat. Oliver Stone & Aaron Good (11/22/21) by Chapo Trap House on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/uD4VJ A nice interview with Oliver Stone on the documentary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 My favourite thing about this is how it has the existence of the deep state in the red 'detached from reality' category alongside Reptilian overlords and flat Earthers, yet the green 'things that actually happened' category is full of things perpetrated by the deep state. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Zetterlund said: My favourite thing about this is how it has the existence of the deep state in the red 'detached from reality' category alongside Reptilian overlords and flat Earthers, yet the green 'things that actually happened' category is full of things perpetrated by the deep state. Where does "but it's the same club" fit on that chart... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I've just heard one about an "alien" called Valiant Thor who lived in or around the White House. It's right out there and alot doesn't match up and it's basically the plot to the film, The Day The Earth Stood Still. But still a good story nonetheless. The podcast is here for anyone interested 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Zetterlund said: My favourite thing about this is how it has the existence of the deep state in the red 'detached from reality' category alongside Reptilian overlords and flat Earthers, yet the green 'things that actually happened' category is full of things perpetrated by the deep state. Ten years ago (actually even five years ago) Epstein would've been in "the antisemitic point of no return" category. These people are unserious dickheads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 No idea why Iran Contra is in the same category as Denver Airport and We live in a Simulation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 hours ago, welshbairn said: No idea why Iran Contra is in the same category as Denver Airport and We live in a Simulation. Because the whole idea of coining the term conspiracy theory was to stop people from questioning authority. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Zetterlund said: My favourite thing about this is how it has the existence of the deep state in the red 'detached from reality' category alongside Reptilian overlords and flat Earthers, yet the green 'things that actually happened' category is full of things perpetrated by the deep state. Just as a brief aside, this chart provides some great names if I ever want to start a band. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, the snudge said: I've just heard one about an "alien" called Valiant Thor who lived in or around the White House. It's right out there and alot doesn't match up and it's basically the plot to the film, The Day The Earth Stood Still. But still a good story nonetheless. The podcast is here for anyone interested Here he is with American top brass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is Reality A Simulation being so high is telling here. Science magic is the new religion. According to this bird's Twitter she is a researcher but doesn't say who for..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystercatcher Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 There was a cracking documentary out a few years ago called the evidence of revision. It pieced together loads of news clips at the time of the JFK assassination. It went into other things too, it was separated into parts , i think there was maybe 5. I can only find the first one Evidence of Revision | DocumentaryTube 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Here he is with American top brass. This picture is apparently also him: He apparently spent 3 years at the Pentagon. He's aged a hell of a lot in 3 years there, I'd say. But I suppose shapeshifting aliens can do that. He comes from Venus, and we can't see the people of Venus on the surface of Venus because they live inside Venus. Why do people even begin with this shit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Oystercatcher said: There was a cracking documentary out a few years ago called the evidence of revision. It pieced together loads of news clips at the time of the JFK assassination. It went into other things too, it was separated into parts , i think there was maybe 5. I can only find the first one Evidence of Revision | DocumentaryTube 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Detournement said: Is Reality A Simulation being so high is telling here. Science magic is the new religion. According to this bird's Twitter she is a researcher but doesn't say who for..... I'm guessing from the type of graphic that it's for a management consultancy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 The JFK stuff will never be released. Which is really a testament to the power and influence of those who carried it out and their successors. My slightly tin foil hat take is that I reckon George H W Bush is heavily implicated, possibly even Oswald's CIA handler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tommy Carcetti said: The JFK stuff will never be released. Which is really a testament to the power and influence of those who carried it out and their successors. My slightly tin foil hat take is that I reckon George H W Bush is heavily implicated, possibly even Oswald's CIA handler. GHWB was far higher up than that. He's more a smoky rooms guy than dealing with a pleb like LHO. I doubt there is an outright smoking gun in the remaining documents, just confirmation of stuff we already know like Ruth Paine's entire family being CIA. And stuff about foreign murders like Luamumba. The documents also include information about the RFK and MLK killings which aren't as deeply researched so that could be another sticking point. Edited November 24, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pj_puttz Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Here he is with American top brass. Thor confirmed. That’s clearly Hawkeye sitting to his right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 A shapeshifting alien advisor from Venus, Said "Have they seen us, I don't mind Biden, But for a few years I was hiding, Because I thought Trump was a pen......itential case waiting to happen" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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