Leith Green Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, AndyM said: the Glasgow one is so diminished with the 800 away fans in a 50/60 thousand seater stadium Its worse than that, I think they are now at zero away fans, what a shitshow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyzer0 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, AndyM said: You can do what you like with the weegies as Hearts and Hibs fans rarely travel in numbers these days to league fixtures in Glasgow as we get a tiny allocation but I can't see any reason in dicking about with the away allocations in the Edinburgh Derby. Both sides hand each other 3000 tickets and it results in a tremendous noisy atmosphere. 100% this. The atmosphere at both grounds for the Edinburgh derby is always brilliant - no way anyone should be dicking about with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, AndyM said: You can do what you like with the weegies as Hearts and Hibs fans rarely travel in numbers these days to league fixtures in Glasgow as we get a tiny allocation but I can't see any reason in dicking about with the away allocations in the Edinburgh Derby. Both sides hand each other 3000 tickets and it results in a tremendous noisy atmosphere. The marches to the stadiums from the away fans are excellent spectacle and the fixture as a whole really is a selling point of the league. It's also the only true big city derby IMHO in the league as the Glasgow one is so diminished with the 800 away fans in a 50/60 thousand seater stadium and that's not mentioning the tedious sectarian slop which turns off anyone with an IQ larger than their shoe size I can fully appreciate that, but playing the devil's advocate here. Four out of every five Hearts season ticket holders do not go to Easter Road. They will not be affected by any tit-for-tat allocation reduction by Hibs FC. The loyalty point system which I completely support, ensures that only the most loyal season ticket holders that go to loads of away games, have any chance of a ticket for Easter Road. I expect the most vocal supporters of continuing the 3,000 allocation are regular attendees in the away support at derbies. Hearts fans are being refused the opportunity to buy a full season ticket to ensure 3,000 fans can visit Tynecastle/Easter Road twice a year at most. I would hate to lose the amazing derby atmosphere, but I also have sympathy for all the Hearts fans that have to make way for the visit of Hibs. Tynecastle needs to have it's capacity increased. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mr. X said: I can fully appreciate that, but playing the devil's advocate here. Four out of every five Hearts season ticket holders do not go to Easter Road. They will not be affected by any tit-for-tat allocation reduction by Hibs FC. The loyalty point system which I completely support, ensures that only the most loyal season ticket holders that go to loads of away games, have any chance of a ticket for Easter Road. I expect the most vocal supporters of continuing the 3,000 allocation are regular attendees in the away support at derbies. Hearts fans are being refused the opportunity to buy a full season ticket to ensure 3,000 fans can visit Tynecastle/Easter Road twice a year at most. I would hate to lose the amazing derby atmosphere, but I also have sympathy for all the Hearts fans that have to make way for the visit of Hibs. Tynecastle needs to have it's capacity increased. This sums it up pretty well. I fully agree I think full ends adds to the spectacle and makes it much more enjoyable. However, people saying we should cut Hibs allocation aren't doing so in a "let's cut them out" type way that's happening in Glasgow. It's because potentially a significant number of ST holders will be locked out of home derbies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: It's because potentially a significant number of ST holders will be locked out of home derbies They are not being "locked out", their season ticket has been sold on the basis that it doesnt include derbies, and (I think) may also exclude them from the guaranteed ability to buy that specific seat for cup matches. The price of their ticket reflects this, it is cheaper than the equivalent seat at the Gorgie Rd end. Any reduction in tickets for Hibs could be a bit of a pyrrhic victory and I personally know home and away hearts fans who dont want this to happen. Edited June 6, 2023 by Leith Green 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Leith Green said: They are not being "locked out", their season ticket has been sold on the basis that it doesnt include derbies, and (I think) may also exclude them from the guaranteed ability to buy that specific seat for cup matches. The price of their ticket reflects this, it is cheaper than the equivalent seat at the Gorgie Rd end. Any reduction in tickets for Hibs could be a bit of a pyrrhic victory and I personally know home and away hearts fans who dont want this to happen. But they are flat out being denied the chance to buy ST's for these games. I'm pretty sure those forking out would rather be at the game and the ST isn't just Cat B as they get Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen games. So it is a choice to deny Hearts fans tickets they want to buy, I can see why people see that as a poor business plan from us. I'm not saying cut Hibs allocation, I'm saying I have sympathy with the argument we shouldn't be turning away our own fans in significant numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. X said: Tynecastle needs to have it's capacity increased. Is there scope for that? Could you fill in the corners to add capacity? Have heard Hibs fans talk about this at ER but 21000 is as much as we need for now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, AndyM said: Is there scope for that? Could you fill in the corners to add capacity? Have heard Hibs fans talk about this at ER but 21000 is as much as we need for now. Those big columns of steel at each corner are currently holding up the roof so you'd need to reengineer the supports for most of the roofs it's possible but it would be expensive. The corner pillar design would have been chosen because the site was so tight there wasn't much room to have cantilevered steel hanging out the back like at Easter Road. In fact there wasn't even enough room for all the blocks in the Gorgie Road stand to go all the way back There's a little bit more space now but you're still going to have to do something like a suspension bridge design as Chelsea did with the Mathew Harding Stand Edited June 6, 2023 by topcat(The most tip top) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 hours ago, AndyM said: and the fixture as a whole really is a selling point of the league Someone should tell Sky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 51 minutes ago, Darren said: Someone should tell Sky. They really should. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigie Jambo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 There's no agreement with any club to give a whole stand; none! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyzer0 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-are-set-to-appoint-their-new-manager-after-boardroom-talks-4172803 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Seems an odd way to do things, get rid of a manager who had the badges to be one, replace him with someone who doesn't, only to need to appoint someone else after 5 games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jambo-rocker Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Makes us look tinpot AF IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, the jambo-rocker said: Makes us look tinpot AF IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 If someone can explain to me, without using the words “anti-Catholic sectarianism” or “h*ns without the bus fare”, why Hearts fans are buzzing with an appointment of a caretaker manager who won two out of seven games, I’d be all ears. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, the jambo-rocker said: Makes us look tinpot AF IMO. I'll not give a feck how we look if we start winning games every week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, HibsFan said: If someone can explain to me, without using the words “anti-Catholic sectarianism” or “h*ns without the bus fare”, why Hearts fans are buzzing with an appointment of a caretaker manager who won two out of seven games, I’d be all ears. It's not for you to worry about. You concentrate on wee Lee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Hilariously tinpot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Steven Naismith has led Hearts to a 4-game unbeaten run in the Scottish Premiership. At 36 years old, he's the youngest manager technical director in the league. Hearts won't pay a £22,000 fine each time they play because he's the technical director and you can't prove otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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