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The duality of mind and body has challenged some of western civilizations greatest thinkers for millennia from Plato through Descartes to the modern day
They never really cracked it
The idea that  Graham Linehan or Eddie Izzard  would be able to neatly sum it up in 256 characters is ludicrous 
You say that, but Oaksoft of Pie and Bovril has made some pretty definitive declarations on the matter here. I can imagine Plato resting a little easier now that the matter has been closed by an Internet fantasist.
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45 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

You say that, but Oaksoft of Pie and Bovril has made some pretty definitive declarations on the matter here. I can imagine Plato resting a little easier now that the matter has been closed by an Internet fantasist.

Mind you his post was 1000 characters long so it would need to be cut down a bit for use outside the rarefied intellectual environment of P&B.

 

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Just now, Bairnardo said:
2 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:
Mind you his post was 1000 characters long so it would need to be cut down a bit for use outside the rarefied intellectual environment of P&B.
 

Oaksoft must surely be well used to tailoring his lessons for those on a lesser plane.

Maybe but people forget that not everybody on the internet is a clever as the people here

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2 hours ago, RawB93 said:

@bennett not an LGBT+ ally despite claiming to be gay on here is a desperately sad reminder of just how much shite transfolk still have to wade through.

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People red and green dot posts for a variety of reasons. I've greenied posts I definitely don't agree with but I admire the chutzpah, or because it was eloquent, or they used a particular word, or if I liked the GIF. 

I'm not sure why you believe that being gay would make you automatically an ally of all LGBTQ+ people. It's a broad old church. Gay people aren't a monolith (step right this way, Kenneth).

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3 hours ago, RawB93 said:

@bennett not an LGBT+ ally despite claiming to be gay on here is a desperately sad reminder of just how much shite transfolk still have to wade through.

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The lgbt is not one voice, being gay doesn't mean that I have to follow certain viewpoints. 

 

I think that 8 years old is far too young an age to be making those decisions.

 

 

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4 hours ago, RawB93 said:

@bennett not an LGBT+ ally despite claiming to be gay on here is a desperately sad reminder of just how much shite transfolk still have to wade through.

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Yours going to be shocked when you find out how vile some lesbians can be in this "debate". Being a certain sexuality doesn't guarantee tolerance and acceptance.

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29 minutes ago, 101 said:

Yours going to be shocked when you find out how vile some lesbians can be in this "debate". Being a certain sexuality doesn't guarantee tolerance and acceptance.

...up there with the straight fuckers... 

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Just now, Day of the Lords said:

Some thread. So basically an unpleasant right wing arsehole suffering any consequence whatsoever from being a right wing arsehole has been "cancelled" 😂

Fucking snowflakes. 

The 4th official seems to have fallen into this trap after his bleating about folk singing during the queen's memorials but he(?) is now a champion of free speech. Interesting turn of events.

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16 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said:

The duality of mind and body has challenged some of western civilizations greatest thinkers for millennia from Plato through Descartes to the modern day

They never really cracked it

The idea that  Graham Linehan or Eddie Izzard  would be able to neatly sum it up in 256 characters is ludicrous 

Yep, the concepts of transgenderism, gender questioning, homosexuality, bisexuality etc all predate the abrahamic religions which are so vehemently opposed to them. I find it very strange that people can just claim that ‘god thinks this’ or ‘jesus would be sad at the thought of a person changing gender’ when actually if you ever really look at writings about Jesus he was essentially a big hippie socialist guy to put a modern label on it. There’s also a very interesting school of thought which suggests Jesus was partial to spending the night with Paul and that they were lovers. How people can take the sorta consensus held through most theologic academia about Jesus and try and suggest that he would defend their ultra conservative dogma or embody this really hate filled position they take on life suggests to me they havent got the grasp on their religion in the way they should. It’s almost like they are using their ‘faith’ and twisting it to suit a very narrow agenda which has no basis in historical context or logic. 

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8 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yep, the concepts of transgenderism, gender questioning, homosexuality, bisexuality etc all predate the abrahamic religions which are so vehemently opposed to them. I find it very strange that people can just claim that ‘god thinks this’ or ‘jesus would be sad at the thought of a person changing gender’ when actually if you ever really look at writings about Jesus he was essentially a big hippie socialist guy to put a modern label on it. There’s also a very interesting school of thought which suggests Jesus was partial to spending the night with Paul and that they were lovers. How people can take the sorta consensus held through most theologic academia about Jesus and try and suggest that he would defend their ultra conservative dogma or embody this really hate filled position they take on life suggests to me they havent got the grasp on their religion in the way they should. It’s almost like they are using their ‘faith’ and twisting it to suit a very narrow agenda which has no basis in historical context or logic. 

You “find it very strange” that religious nut jobs just make things up to suit their oppressive agenda?  Really?

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2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

You “find it very strange” that religious nut jobs just make things up to suit their oppressive agenda?  Really?

I find it strange that they believe its a credible view point, i find it strange that it isnt subject to more criticism and ridicule, I find it strange that people tend to accept their positions. 

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10 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

I find it strange that they believe its a credible view point, i find it strange that it isnt subject to more criticism and ridicule, I find it strange that people tend to accept their positions. 

The only people who will criticise and ridicule it are those of us outwith the influence of religious organisations.  Much of the brainwashing that goes on in religion centres on not challenging the teachings.

Of course it’s much worse in some religions, that’s why you can’t have an open discussion with a Jehovah’s Witness or a Muslim about their religion.  Probably some Catholics too, though less so than in years gone by.

 

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58 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Yep, the concepts of transgenderism, gender questioning, homosexuality, bisexuality etc all predate the abrahamic religions which are so vehemently opposed to them. I find it very strange that people can just claim that ‘god thinks this’ or ‘jesus would be sad at the thought of a person changing gender’ when actually if you ever really look at writings about Jesus he was essentially a big hippie socialist guy to put a modern label on it. There’s also a very interesting school of thought which suggests Jesus was partial to spending the night with Paul and that they were lovers. How people can take the sorta consensus held through most theologic academia about Jesus and try and suggest that he would defend their ultra conservative dogma or embody this really hate filled position they take on life suggests to me they havent got the grasp on their religion in the way they should. It’s almost like they are using their ‘faith’ and twisting it to suit a very narrow agenda which has no basis in historical context or logic. 

This also applies to people whose faith is in a rudimentary, partial understanding of science. 

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