Derry Alli Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, SuperSaints1877 said: I apologise to @Mr. Alli for my comments regarding his personal drug habits. I do hope he seeks professional support and gets himself clean. No harm done. Apology not needed to myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 The Pleasance has come out with another statement, think they would have been better just waiting for it to blow over if that's the best they can come up with. Quote ‘As previously stated, the Pleasance chose to pull Jerry Sadowitz’s second and final show. Due to numerous complaints, we became immediately aware of content that was considered, among other things, extreme in its racism, sexism, homophobia and misogyny. ‘We will not associate with content which attacks people’s dignity and the language used on stage was, in our view, completely unacceptable. ‘A large number of people walked out of Jerry Sadowitz’s show as they felt uncomfortable and unsafe to remain in the venue. We have received an unprecedented number of complaints that could not be ignored and we had a duty to respond. The subsequent abuse directed to our teams is also equally unacceptable. ‘At the Pleasance, our values are to be inclusive, diverse and welcoming. We are proud of the progress we have made across our programming, which includes significant investment and support for Black, Asian and Global Majority artists, LGBTQ+ voices, those from working class backgrounds, and the strong representation of women. We do not believe that racism, homophobia, sexism or misogynistic language have a place in our venues. ‘In a changing world, stories and language that were once accepted on stage, whether performed in character or not, need to be challenged. There is a line that we will not cross at the Pleasance, and it was our view that this line was crossed on this occasion. ‘We don’t vet the full content of acts in advance and while Jerry Sadowitz is a controversial comedian, we could not have known the specifics of his performance. The Pleasance has staged his work numerous times over the years, but as soon as we received complaints from those in the building which caused us great concern, we knew we could not allow the final performance to go ahead. ‘The arts and comedy in particular have always pushed the boundaries of social norms but this boundary is always moving. Our industry has to move with it. However, this does not mean that we can allow such content to be on our stages.’ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The Pleasance has come out with another statement, think they would have been better just waiting for it to blow over if that's the best they can come up with. I dont really care what The Pleasance pr dweebs say, and couldnt really care less if JS got his wee tadger out on stage (people naked at the fringe is pretty normal) but I think the days of it being acceptable to get up on a stage and use the term "paki" died with my dads generation. Simply saying "I say stuff to shock people" is the cop out of the likes of Jim Davidson and Manning. Hope its the last time he gets on a stage at the Fringe too - not because of this, but I think he is chronic. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said: St Mirren fans seem perfectly normal, eh? Said it before and I’ll say it again: why are they always such freaks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said: I have lost friends and family to heroin addiction and gang warfare in Paisley in the 80s. I’ve seen first hand in the last 10years what an alcohol and cocaine addiction can do. My best friend in his 50s lost his high flying career, his house and now he doesn’t even recognise his own wife, kids or friends as his brain is totally fcuked from snorting that shit. He now has to live in a care home and he’s not even 60 years old. This is not a forum for those seeking help for drug addiction. Coming on boasting of how many g’s he has done on a weekend is not a good look. Seek help before it’s too late. https://www.rehab4addiction.co.uk/country-wide/drug-alcohol-rehab-dundee This is a forum for everyone and anyone. Glad you’ve acknowledged your mistake and hope everyone can move on now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: I dont really care what The Pleasance pr dweebs say, and couldnt really care less if JS got his wee tadger out on stage (people naked at the fringe is pretty normal) but I think the days of it being acceptable to get up on a stage and use the term "paki" died with my dads generation. Simply saying "I say stuff to shock people" is the cop out of the likes of Jim Davidson and Manning. Hope its the last time he gets on a stage at the Fringe too - not because of this, but I think he is chronic. So because you think he’s chronic, nobody else should get to see him. What is acceptable to say on stage? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just let the “sleeve tattoo Darryls and Caidens” watch professional weegie plagiarists like Kevin Bridges and Frankie Boyle do their stuff, and leave us in peace to watch what we think is amusing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: I dont really care what The Pleasance pr dweebs say, and couldnt really care less if JS got his wee tadger out on stage (people naked at the fringe is pretty normal) but I think the days of it being acceptable to get up on a stage and use the term "paki" died with my dads generation. Simply saying "I say stuff to shock people" is the cop out of the likes of Jim Davidson and Manning. Hope its the last time he gets on a stage at the Fringe too - not because of this, but I think he is chronic. If being chronic is the standard of being at the Fringe or not there would be about 3 shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said: I don’t agree with the Dead Pool forum on this site and the disgusting jokes many make regarding peoples deaths. Right, that's enough! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, SuperSaints1877 said: I don’t agree with the Dead Pool forum on this site and the disgusting jokes many make regarding peoples deaths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 First they came for the comedians using the "p word" in a bit and I did not speak out - because I was not a comedian using the "p word" in a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: As previously stated, the Pleasance chose to pull Jerry Sadowitz Poor choice of words for start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 "We'd no idea that the notoriously controversial comedian we've hosted many times before was going to say anything so controversial". All the best with your sell-out tour of Scotland next month, Jerry! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 The festival is shite anyway Other than the pub opening times 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: Just let the “sleeve tattoo Darryls and Caidens” watch professional weegie plagiarists like Kevin Bridges and Frankie Boyle do their stuff, and leave us in peace to watch what we think is amusing. You find a guy waving his small cock about in a womans face amusing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: So because you think he’s chronic, nobody else should get to see him. What is acceptable to say on stage? Fair challenge, I let my dislike of JS get in the way. Fringe is great, but there are a lot of acts I wouldnt cross the road to watch - but everyone has their own taste, each to their own etc. However, the more important part of my point was that its not acceptable to be calling people "paki" in the name of giggles. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Binos said: The festival is shite anyway Other than the pub opening times When the 'fringe' has Iain Dale receiving an OBN after a fawing interview with Nicola Sturgeon you realise that 'fringe theatre' has been ruined in Scotland. It used to be about iconoclasm and innovation but is now so mainstream that the most boring, anodyne and humourless politician in living memory is a headline act. But then the DPRS is a cultural wilderness. Edited August 14, 2022 by The_Kincardine -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Getting a cock out on stage is only funny when its done by accident, like with Lenny Kravitz. Getting a ball out is always funny, though, like in The Inbetweeners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 The fringe is shite, it's just a gathering of pretentious wankers who just have to be seen at the fringe for all their social media followers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Empty It said: You find a guy waving his small cock about in a womans face amusing? Enough about your Saturday night already................ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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